http://www.electriciantalk.com Professional Electrical Contractors Discussing Business and Trade Knowledge About Residential and Commercial Work. en Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:40:16 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.electriciantalk.com/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.electriciantalk.com http://www.electriciantalk.com/f17/serial-killing-twins-separated-birth-16290/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:31:53 GMT

1 killed around 40 the other killed 10's of thousands ]]> Off Topic Introyble http://www.electriciantalk.com/f17/serial-killing-twins-separated-birth-16290/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/old-milbank-meter-cover-needed-16289/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:51:47 GMT Does anyone have suggestions to locate obsolete residential meter covers, stealing them is now standard procedure. I need an old milbank cover... Does anyone have suggestions to locate obsolete residential meter covers, stealing them is now standard procedure. I need an old milbank cover otherwise I have to go on a 5 week waiting list for the work with from the electric utility. How much can one of these covers possibly bring at the scrap house? ]]> General Electrical Discussion fatmike http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/old-milbank-meter-cover-needed-16289/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/sleeves-16288/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:24:23 GMT If you are coring through floors and running vertical conduit do you have to sleeve it. Or is a core & firestop suffice?? Thanks. ]]> General Electrical Discussion horsegoer http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/sleeves-16288/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f30/cec-question-bonding-step-down-transformer-16287/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:06:27 GMT In the 'things that make you go 'hmmm'' category, I was just wiring up step-down transformers that are taking 15A of 600V and producing 40A of 220V. The book says the primary side of the transformer can be wired with 14ga THHN, and it can be bonded with the same. But if the secondary side is producing 40A, then doesn't the primary side bonding need to be big enough to handle the potential fault current? I can't find anything in the book that covers this situation. Any thoughts?

Mike ]]> Commercial Electrical Forum Mike in Canada http://www.electriciantalk.com/f30/cec-question-bonding-step-down-transformer-16287/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f29/cec-question-swimming-pool-install-16286/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 11:02:39 GMT I was looking at a swimming pool that is being installed. The wires to the submerged, wet-niche lights are being run not through PVC conduit, but... I was looking at a swimming pool that is being installed. The wires to the submerged, wet-niche lights are being run not through PVC conduit, but through spa-pipe (tigerflex.. that kind of thing) by the manufacturer. That was very strange. The home-owner, seeing 'how it's done' then ran spa pipe as the conduit for the feed to the pool shed.
Swimming pools aren't my thing. Is this use of spa-pipe common? I figured as long as it's deep and protected by wood and a cable rated for direct-burial is used, then it won't be a problem, but... it really struck me as odd. I'm also not sure yet how I'm going to make this thing 'pretty'... there's going to be cable coming out of a glorified rubber hose in the basement wall.

Mike ]]> Residential Electrical Forum Mike in Canada http://www.electriciantalk.com/f29/cec-question-swimming-pool-install-16286/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/very-cheap-wiha-tools-16284/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:45:39 GMT check out frys.com I am going to go over to the store. but it appears their insulated sets are Jonard Industries. which is also the same... check out frys.com

I am going to go over to the store. but it appears their insulated sets are Jonard Industries. which is also the same manufacture as wiha and many others


take a look


http://www.frys.com/category/Outpost...ewdriver+Sets/ ]]> Tools, Equipment and New Products mikeh32 http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/very-cheap-wiha-tools-16284/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/why-ground-16283/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:15:53 GMT I have got to get to bed but before I do, I want to ask, "why do we have to have a ground, anyway? I'll check this thread in the morning. Thanks. ]]> General Electrical Discussion RIVETER http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/why-ground-16283/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f26/will-having-electrial-motor-controls-associate-degree-help-me-16282/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:54:44 GMT I am about halfway through my electrical classes, but I am considering changing majors. I enjoy the classes but am not sure if they are going to help... I am about halfway through my electrical classes, but I am considering changing majors. I enjoy the classes but am not sure if they are going to help me if I ever get into the apprenticeship. Won't I just have to retake all the same classes anyways through the union? I've already had an interview with the union I want to get in and hopefully will have a re-interview soon.

So should I learn something else in case my electrician career never takes off, or keep at it and get my degree? ]]> Union Topics smb43432 http://www.electriciantalk.com/f26/will-having-electrial-motor-controls-associate-degree-help-me-16282/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/texas-master-16281/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:29:45 GMT Does anyone here, have their Texas masters license? I'm looking to expand my business there and need information about testing and ect. I do know that I already meet the requirements. Texas does not reciprocate with Florida so I need to take the test there.
1. What is lowest score you need to pass the test? 75?
2. How often can you take the test there?
3. How long does the application process take?
James ]]> General Electrical Discussion TheBrushMan007 http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/texas-master-16281/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f28/possible-get-shocked-480v-without-touching-all-3-busses-16280/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 03:11:26 GMT How many volts are running through each phase in a 3 phase 480v panel? I hear of stories of people getting "hit" by 480v. how is this possible?... And how do you get 120v from the same panel if it has no neutral? Please explain!

Thanks ]]> PLCs, VFDs, Motors and Controls btr http://www.electriciantalk.com/f28/possible-get-shocked-480v-without-touching-all-3-busses-16280/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f5/all-talk-about-grounding-16279/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:44:41 GMT .........Made me start thinking, isolated grounding. Is it me, or does this seem like the most misunderstood grounding system? I have seen it done... .........Made me start thinking,

isolated grounding. Is it me, or does this seem like the most misunderstood grounding system? I have seen it done wrong a THOUSAND times. Not to mention I think it's all smoke and mirrors just like "super neutrals".

Discuss. ]]> NEC Code Forum slickvic277 http://www.electriciantalk.com/f5/all-talk-about-grounding-16279/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f17/karma-luck-16278/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:40:50 GMT Gracious tenent of client living through remodel - occassionally makes whole crew lunch.... One was a big italian/pasta feast... The last was BBQ and... Gracious tenent of client living through remodel - occassionally makes whole crew lunch.... One was a big italian/pasta feast... The last was BBQ and burgers...

Scene:
Plumber has water and gas shut off. Tenant decides to BBQ - and it was a nice day (rare for my neck of woods...) Tenant lights charcoal in a chimeny starter - puts the bag 10' away near the house... Comes back to find the bag of charcoal torched - and WET.... Also the siding of the building scorched....

Takes all of lunch and a little guess work...

He lights the charcaol - a spark from the stuff he lit in the weber jumps into bag... He takes the bag, and puts it next to the house - it ignites.... Burns the bag, scorches the house siding, then melts the hose on the wall. Reminents of water left in plumbing system sprays and then drains onto/into bag and building siding - puts the fire out....

Ok - what are the statistics and chances of that?!? ]]> Off Topic e57 http://www.electriciantalk.com/f17/karma-luck-16278/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/who-makes-best-multi-function-screwdriver-16277/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:23:35 GMT Was in need for one and wanted opinions on what to go with considering everyone makes them now. Is kleins 11-in-1 good cause thats what I intend on... Was in need for one and wanted opinions on what to go with considering everyone makes them now. Is kleins 11-in-1 good cause thats what I intend on buying since I lost my klein 10-in-1? ]]> Tools, Equipment and New Products GEORGE D http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/who-makes-best-multi-function-screwdriver-16277/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/clip-klein-tool-pouch-16272/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:42:28 GMT This could quite possibly be a dumb question deserving dumb answers, but what is the push clip on the klein tool pouch for, the #5127 in particular. This could quite possibly be a dumb question deserving dumb answers, but what is the push clip on the klein tool pouch for, the #5127 in particular. ]]> Tools, Equipment and New Products nick.pei http://www.electriciantalk.com/f14/clip-klein-tool-pouch-16272/ http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/wiring-building-no-heat-16271/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:09:18 GMT I have to wire a 12X14 structure that has a kitchen, small media room, and bathroom. It is going to double as a pool storage building when... I have to wire a 12X14 structure that has a kitchen, small media room, and bathroom.

It is going to double as a pool storage building when filters get disconnected for the winter.

Is the kitchen in a pool house considered the same as a kitchen in a dwelling and must be wired as such?

There is no stove, just counter space, refrigerator, and sink. ]]> General Electrical Discussion Black4Truck http://www.electriciantalk.com/f2/wiring-building-no-heat-16271/