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mikeg_05 · 07-28-2009, 12:08 AM

off subject, but I heard it was "against the law" to daisy chain your phones together. Ive been waiting for the low volt police for awhile and they have not shown up

crazyboy · 07-28-2009, 08:43 AM

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off subject, but I heard it was "against the law" to daisy chain your phones together. Ive been waiting for the low volt police for awhile and they have not shown up

It's against the Standards.

MDShunk · 08-13-2009, 06:20 PM

Thought I'd post a picture of a connector installed on .320 cable. I was doing a bit of this work earlier this week and took a picture, since some people seemed unfamaliar with .320. It's pretty darned close to RG-11.

Peter D · 08-13-2009, 06:28 PM

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Thought I'd post a picture of a connector installed on .320 cable. I was doing a bit of this work earlier this week and took a picture, since some people seemed unfamaliar with .320. It's pretty darned close to RG-11.

That's the most interesting thing I have seen in quite some time.

mikeg_05 · 08-13-2009, 08:19 PM

What do you even use RG 11 for? CCTV?

MDShunk · 08-13-2009, 08:23 PM

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What do you even use RG 11 for? CCTV?

RG-11 is for times when RG-10 isn't quite enough and RG-12 would just be overkill.

Lighting Retro · 08-16-2009, 11:02 PM

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RG-11 is for times when RG-10 isn't quite enough and RG-12 would just be overkill.

kornbln · 08-19-2009, 02:10 AM

Speaking of coax fittings...

T&B has a Snap-N-Seal fitting designed for 320 cable, but it specifies CommScope only. Would it work for others?

The right-angle 6/6QS fitting is pretty slick, too.

http://www.tnb.com/pubint/docs/snapnseal.pdf

hbiss · 08-19-2009, 10:24 AM

T&B has a Snap-N-Seal fitting designed for 320 cable, but it specifies CommScope only. Would it work for others?

What does ONLY mean? This is what I'm saying. If somebody has to ask a question like that they have no business doing this kind of work.

The right-angle 6/6QS fitting is pretty slick, too.

Never seen them used nor can I think of a reason to use them. If you provide space for the proper cable bend radius, straight fittings are all you need- and at a much lower cost too I suspect.

-Hal

Lighting Retro · 08-19-2009, 10:53 AM

I bet Hal NEVER had any questions growing up. He just knew everything. Ya'all need to get it together.

hbiss · 08-19-2009, 12:23 PM

No, I didn't have all the answers. I learned how to get information and learned by doing from the work of others who had been in the trade for years whose work I respected. I didn't have the internet to get a quick answer that may or may not be correct. I didn't expect to make any money doing something until I was competant enough to know and do work at least as good as the people I learned from. I know my limitations and won't do something that I am not knowledgeable about or competant doing. If I want to do something bad enough I will learn how to do it first. There is no such thing as telling a customer that I can do a job so I can get it then trying to figure out later how to do it.

Stick to that philosphy and be anal and a perfectionist and you too can be as smart as me.

-Hal

Lighting Retro · 08-19-2009, 12:28 PM

Good enough brother!

MDShunk · 08-19-2009, 06:03 PM

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There is no such thing as telling a customer that I can do a job so I can get it then trying to figure out later how to do it.

I've made a pretty good living.... nay, an entire lifestyle, out of telling customers that I could do something and figuring out how to do it as I go. Education is expensive. I get mine on the customer's dime, and I'm not the least bit ashamed of it.

hbiss · 08-19-2009, 06:29 PM

Somehow I knew that.

-Hal

steelersman · 08-19-2009, 07:11 PM

All I wanna know is, what the hell is .320 and RG-10,11,12 and any other number out there? All I've heard of is RG-6 and 59. Is RG-6 bigger than 10,11, and 12 or smaller?

Lighting Retro · 08-19-2009, 08:52 PM

According to Hal, if you ask that question, you should not be allowed to utter the word electrician.

hbiss · 08-19-2009, 11:35 PM

All I wanna know is, what the hell is .320 and RG-10,11,12 and any other number out there? All I've heard of is RG-6 and 59. Is RG-6 bigger than 10,11, and 12 or smaller?

Marc is pulling your leg with RG-10 and 12, kinda like the 220, 221 whatever it takes thing. I would have to look to see if there are such numbers, there may be but it wouldn't be used for anything we would be interested in.

The RG designation dates back to WWII and the military. The numbers are meaningless unless you look up the spec. So if there is a RG-10 and an RG-12 they probably would have no resemblance to each other.

Although some true RG spec cables are still made, (RG-59 is widely used for video) the CATV cables we are familiar are only called RG-59, 6 and 11 and are of a completely different construction than the military spec. The RG designation is only maintained as a size reference. There is a recent RG-7 that never had an actual RG equivalent and is a bit larger than RG-6.

Cables like .320 are a modern departure from this antiquated designation system. The number represents the actual outside diameter of the shield or outside conductor. All solid sheath or hardline cables are designated this way by their OD.

-Hal

Peter D · 08-19-2009, 11:50 PM

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I get mine on the customer's dime, and I'm not the least bit ashamed of it.

Tell me...do you have any shame whatsoever? I'm really curious. From reading your replies over the years, it seems like there is nothing you won't stoop to to make a buck. To put it bluntly, you kind of seem like a whore to me.

This is actually a serious question and not my usual nonsense.

Lighting Retro · 08-20-2009, 12:44 AM

monitormix · 08-20-2009, 01:11 AM

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My observation... Hal is a world-class d!ckhead. Too bad he's actually knowledgeable too. Such as waste of knowledge.

Hal... Comcast phased out RG-11 in my area several years back in favor of .320.

Is the .320 they are using still RG-11 or is RG-8 or variant of it? Most specs still list 11 as the predominant head end cable. What's the application video, cctv, dbs other?