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04-03-2012, 09:16 PM
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Intersystem Bonding Bar Mounting
other than looking ugly is it ok to use bare ground or neutral bars from old panels for intersystem bonding bars?
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04-03-2012, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by rrolleston
other than looking ugly is it ok to use bare ground or neutral bars from old panels for intersystem bonding bars?
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Only if your from Whitehall 
BTW, is this from a commercial of residential set up?
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04-03-2012, 09:49 PM
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Residential setup. I just have a bunch bars and thought maybe I would do it so the cable and telephone companies make their connections. And maybe grab one next trip to the supply house. Saving me a 45 min drive one way.
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04-03-2012, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rrolleston
Residential setup. I just have a bunch bars and thought maybe I would do it so the cable and telephone companies make their connections. And maybe grab one next trip to the supply house. Saving me a 45 min drive one way.
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Not made to be out in the elements.
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04-03-2012, 10:43 PM
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Im not sure but something tells me it needs to be a listed item...
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04-03-2012, 11:04 PM
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Not made to be out in the elements.
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It's inside.
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04-03-2012, 11:44 PM
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Im not sure but something tells me it needs to be a listed item...
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Does not say it has to be listed in the NEC just has to meet the min 6 gauge copper wire and min 3 terminals.
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04-03-2012, 11:59 PM
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Why not just get the grounding devices from Arlington that's for this?
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04-04-2012, 12:08 AM
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I just need this in place so the telephone company and cable company can make their connections and grab one next time I go to the supply house.
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04-04-2012, 06:59 AM
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A reasonable person would conclude the op's idea is perfectly acceptable.
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04-04-2012, 07:17 AM
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A reasonable person would conclude the op's idea is perfectly acceptable.
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I agree and have done just what he describes (indoors).
Why buy something you already have?
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04-05-2012, 09:52 PM
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Interesting thing today the guy from time warner cable cable comes and asks where my cable goes inside and is there a place to ground the new cable their I said there is a bonding bar fed with some #6. And he says they won't allow him to use it without even looking at it. I say what are the other options. Water main, clip on panel, or strip the #6 ground wire and use a clamp that has a lug for the cable ground. Basically the same thing as using a bonding bar.
I though an electrician was crazy when he said some cable guy put a clip on an outdoor panel cover when there was a nice bonding bar mounted to the ground conduit. This don't make sense the NEC says we have to have it but they won't use it.
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04-06-2012, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rrolleston
Interesting thing today the guy from time warner cable cable comes and asks where my cable goes inside and is there a place to ground the new cable their I said there is a bonding bar fed with some #6. And he says they won't allow him to use it without even looking at it. I say what are the other options. Water main, clip on panel, or strip the #6 ground wire and use a clamp that has a lug for the cable ground. Basically the same thing as using a bonding bar.
I though an electrician was crazy when he said some cable guy put a clip on an outdoor panel cover when there was a nice bonding bar mounted to the ground conduit. This don't make sense the NEC says we have to have it but they won't use it.
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Maybe it just hasn't made the list yet.
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04-06-2012, 12:48 PM
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I did just that in my basement. Got a 6 space ground bar and mounted it to the wall. One ground comes in and I have multiple connections for phone systems and cable splitters.
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04-07-2012, 01:04 AM
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Quote:
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I did just that in my basement. Got a 6 space ground bar and mounted it to the wall. One ground comes in and I have multiple connections for phone systems and cable splitters.
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As a TELCO installer, I say Thank You!!1
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04-07-2012, 12:40 PM
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As a TELCO installer, I say Thank You!!1 
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Does the phone company actually use it or do they do like they cable company and ignore it adding a clip to the meter or ground clamp on the wire instead. I installed a 20 terminal bar for splinters and all my networking. The cable guy was surprised to see a nice setup with backboard and grounding in a mobile home.
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04-07-2012, 04:36 PM
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As a TELCO installer, I say Thank You!!1 
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What gauge wire do you use to ground the demarc box?
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04-07-2012, 07:10 PM
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I use the grounding bars inside on my installs. Usually drill and tap it to the side of the panel..Hope that's legal.
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04-07-2012, 08:50 PM
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Why not just get the grounding devices from Arlington that's for this?
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45 minute drive to SH.
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04-07-2012, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ty Wrapp
As a TELCO installer, I say Thank You!!1 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rrolleston
Does the phone company actually use it or do they do like they cable company and ignore it adding a clip to the meter or ground clamp on the wire instead. I installed a 20 terminal bar for splinters and all my networking. The cable guy was surprised to see a nice setup with backboard and grounding in a mobile home.
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If it was available I would use it as long as it is connected to the power ground.
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