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04-19-2012, 03:54 PM
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Patch Panel
Ok, data tech masters... Which would you prefer; the first or second photo.
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04-19-2012, 04:17 PM
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Data Tech/Apprentice.
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Try something like this and move that slack up the loom to where you cannot see it. I only wrote velcro because it seems that its generally what you guys use in the states, zip ties are fine because as a proffesional you wont be doing them too tight.
This diagram is feeding from the left, for the next one down I would loom the cables in feeding from the right in a stand alone cabinet or in a data centre with rows of cabinets/racks. In a telco closet we usually put the cabinet against a wall and run tray down the wall and branch the looms off so they will all be feeding from the same way. Yes, I know I cant draw and have the handwriting of a hypothermic four year old
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04-19-2012, 04:59 PM
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Thanks for the info. I agree that your posted method of dressing the cable is the most appealing, but out of those two photos, is one method preferred over the other? Are there set rules for dressing down a patch panel (other than don't do a slop job, trim your tie wraps...) or is it up to the installer to do it in their own style?
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04-19-2012, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KLovelace29
Thanks for the info. I agree that your posted method of dressing the cable is the most appealing, but out of those two photos, is one method preferred over the other? Are there set rules for dressing down a patch panel (other than don't do a slop job, trim your tie wraps...) or is it up to the installer to do it in their own style?
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One of the big ones for me is that "real estate" in a panels management and droppers is hard to come by so I always loom in cables in a way that leaves the maximum amount of room for the next time, the IT guys might want to run some interlinks themselves and they appreciate when we take them into account.
The way I posted is the only way I dress my panels from 2RU panels hanging on the wall in a UPS room to 50+ rack data centres and I learnt that off someone else who learnt that off someone else and everybody here seems to do it that way.
The trouble with the first pic is what if someone wants to punch down onto the panel beneath it? there is also no management bar and they arent loomed in a way so that they support themselves so all those cables are hanging by their own weight from the punchdown. It does look the tidiest from an aesthitic sense but just lacks a bit of practicality.
The top one could have been best but is let down by randomly spaced zip ties and cables crossing over from the top panel down to the lower panel and cables are all different lengths or perhaps they were all cut to the same length not taking into account that 1 cable is going to be about 400mm longer than 24 cable. They also need to be combed out and that slack needs to be taken up and put elsewhere.
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04-19-2012, 06:13 PM
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I would have to say pic 1...... I will take some pics of my work Tomorrow. 2 isn't bad but it gets crowded.
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04-19-2012, 08:38 PM
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I should be done with the one I'm working on Saturday, I'll get some pics
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04-19-2012, 10:05 PM
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04-19-2012, 11:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LARMGUY
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Thats exactly how we loom our cabinets and racks.
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04-19-2012, 11:28 PM
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In my opinion both pictures look terrible. I will post a picture tomorrow of I, as well as everyone else at my shop, wires a patch panel.
Those Leviton panels come with a rear cable support bar. You should definitely use it.
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04-20-2012, 12:11 AM
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two of mine...
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04-20-2012, 08:44 AM
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Thanks for the info. Theses aren't mine; one is existing, one is new. I did a 110 block (something new to me) but I was trying to illustrate a point to the guy I'm working with that the patch panel should be fixed. Most of the existing cable looks like poop. Then again, we aren't data techs and I've only had the experience of being trained to dress and terminate on a patch by a grumpy old tech who was anal retentive about everything (so am I). Anyway, thanks for the photos. Hopefully they'll help me convince him to fix it.
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04-20-2012, 10:53 PM
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I would go with the first picture, but with velcro
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04-21-2012, 12:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KLovelace29
Ok, data tech masters... Which would you prefer; the first or second photo.
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First one looks good..
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04-21-2012, 12:51 AM
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Really, the only pictures that look passible [is that even a word] are the ones from mikeh. The 2 panels with the yellow cables are too sloppy as far as standards around here.
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04-21-2012, 10:26 AM
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04-21-2012, 10:32 AM
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Is this good?
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Looks like soeone was going for job security
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04-21-2012, 11:41 AM
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04-21-2012, 12:42 PM
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Is this good?
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Looks like someone blew chunks on Power Node 2
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04-22-2012, 10:19 PM
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IT/Phone Guy
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Very nice, dawizman!
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04-23-2012, 09:54 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawizman
Here are a couple pictures of my work. I'm open to any suggestions for improvement.
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I cant think of any other then I prefer to start on the right as not to block access later, looks real nice otherwise, are they going to use in rack switching?
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