MDShunk

Actually, we do seem to have pretty good data from the US Navy, some of it dating back to the 1940's, when they took ice core samples from teh frozen north. It seems that the warm periods and the colder periods are part of the normal ebb and tide of the planet. The cycle is just over a very long period. I would add, however, this this is really no excuse to pollute the planet, but I'm not a bit concerned that we caused global warming. I think it's just part of the natural cycle that would have occurred, with or without us.

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KayJay

What is that RG 6 on the F to pin connector straight thru the line off the RG11, another tap or splitter down stream?
Are you also getting subcontractor work for plant extensions? I know I did that stuff back in the early 90’s for a while when things were very slow. Had to buy special tools and spiral strippers for the .540 hardline, etc. Good times...good times.

MDShunk

More or less. There's plenty of work out there to be had. You just have to ask (or, rather, figure out who to ask)

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Peter D

I'm not sure what my exact words were in that thread and I'm sure not going to spend the time to look them up.

But, since you dragged that one back up again, let me state plainly what I believe: Man caused global warming is a myth. Are global temperatures rising? They could be. Do I care? Not really, because I can't do a darned thing to change them if they are. I can no more control the weather than I can control the time the sun rises and sets every day.

hbiss

More or less. There's plenty of work out there to be had. You just have to ask (or, rather, figure out who to ask)

Back when I was a supervisor for a cable company they hired a couple of electrical contractors as subcontractors to do MDU work because they were desperate. It turned out to be the worst work they have ever seen, so it's not just my opinion. Needless to say they didn't last very long. I can also say that that reputation is pretty much a given in the cable industry, so even if you are willing to do cable work I doubt you will be given the chance unless you can show previous experience.

-Hal

MDShunk

I guess they've been dribbling work my way since 1997, so I must no be doing too badly. You'd faint if you knew how much they pay to change out the tap in my picture. For reference, I got $3400 to run about 50 feet of RG-6 on another job.

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Peter D

Details...we need details.

Cox does not use EC's for any of their work. They have very specific requirements for their subs and they sure ain't payin' that kind of money to run coax. You must run a good scam.

Lighting Retro

*Looks for cable tools*

lol wow

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KayJay

We did everything… overhead and underground plant extensions, MDU post wires with both interior cove mold and exterior U-guard, house amps, taps, traps even lowly installs… the whole shebang. Never had any gigs or complaints, so even though some of us may be like Stutterin’ Stan… surely we can’t all be just a bunch of worthless retards. [or can we]

hbiss

Cox does not use EC's for any of their work. They have very specific requirements for their subs and they sure ain't payin' that kind of money to run coax. You must run a good scam.

My point exactly and it's the same for any other cable company I have ever known or worked for. MD probably has the building managers or owners in his pocket and they are holding the cable company hostage by requiring that only their contractor is allowed to work in their buildings. It's either him or no service. The cable company figures that it's cheaper to put up with it than fight. Am I close?

-Hal

Bob Badger

WOW! I had just figured Marc's customer needed something done and Marc did it. I missed the entire evil conspiracy angle of it, I forgot cable work is so cloak and dagger.

MDShunk

If that were the case, I'd call that "business".

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hbiss

WOW! I had just figured Marc's customer needed something done and Marc did it. I missed the entire evil conspiracy angle of it, I forgot cable work is so cloak and dagger.

I think what you are forgetting is that Marc's customer has no business with any of this either so he has no business having Marc work on it- unless...

I dealt with plenty of greedy building owners and management companies who wanted a kickback of some sort or else they wouldn't let the cable company into the building. Most times the company went the legal route, other times it was cheaper to give the building manager free cable or some other "compensation".

If you want to call that good business go right ahead.

-Hal

InPhase277

Since when does an electrician have "no business" running, or terminating coax? I can see it the other way 'round, a coax man has no business doing work at 120+ V. But a good electrician knows how to properly terminate coax and cat 5,6,7. In fact electricians probably have neater runs, because cable and phone guys just banjo string cable everywhere and never strap it.

480sparky

How many 'lo-voltage' guys have never even heard of the NEC, let alone Chapter 8?
In my area, not many, as cable, telephone, data, etc. are not licensed. If they have no license, they feel they don't need to follow any silly 'rules'... just "git-er done!"

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CFL

This is true around here. I think it's hilarious to hear someone say an electrician can't do cable, or shouldn't do cable work. I won't let the cable company touch anything inside my house. Obviously I have to let them do their end but if I were allowed, I'd do that too. I hate seeing these jackasses walking around with saggy pants and dreadlocks or dealing with some piece of crap immigrant too good to learn my language.

Peter D

For the record, I don't think an EC is incapable of doing this kind of work. It's just that the cable companies, at least around here, have wisely realized they don't need highly skilled tradesmen to do their installations, and don't have to pay them as such. I believe they would call that "business."

hbiss

Since when does an electrician have "no business" running, or terminating coax?

Certainly an electrician can run coax. Termination is another issue because care must be taken during installation and the proper tools and fittings used. It's not enough to find them on ebay and think that you are doing the job properly. There are some guys who are capable of doing a good job, others have little idea how preparation, proper fitting, installation and proper tools work together. Not saying that even they can't do it right but they either don't want to learn or just don't give a crap.

How many 'lo-voltage' guys have never even heard of the NEC, let alone Chapter 8?
In my area, not many, as cable, telephone, data, etc. are not licensed. If they have no license, they feel they don't need to follow any silly 'rules'... just "git-er done!"

You forgot to add that they carry no insurance. You have a valid point and I have absolutely no use for them either. They are the trunkers, handymen, computer geeks, ex Verizon etc. that undercut everybody that runs a legitimate business. Unfortunately licensing won't clean them out because most areas that do license LV contractors rarely enforce the requirement and crack down on unlicensed contractors. It's usually only a revenue generating mechanism.

It's just that the cable companies, at least around here, have wisely realized they don't need highly skilled tradesmen to do their installations, and don't have to pay them as such.

I hate seeing these jackasses walking around with saggy pants and dreadlocks or dealing with some piece of crap immigrant too good to learn my language.

They are most likely sub-contractors and your system probably doesn't have very high standards for them. They get what they pay for.

In-house employees normally are required to abide by a dress and appearance policy and have formal training and pay grades.



-Hal

Black4Truck

Hal.. use the "QUOTE" button on the bottom right hand corner when trying to make a point.

It can only help your "image" as someone having a clue

hbiss

Would you rather this:

Or this:

use the "QUOTE" button on the bottom right hand corner when trying to make a point... It can only help your "image" as someone having a clue.

Which is easier to read? If you can't figure out that what's in italics is a quote you aren't paying attention to the other posts. It's pretty standard procedure, not all boards will do block quotes.

-Hal