How much FR? - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

MDShunk · 07-31-2009, 09:49 AM

Are there any special requirements for uniform patches, embroidery, and screen printing on FR rated clothing?

drsparky · 07-31-2009, 10:11 AM

Personally I wouldn't add anything to them that didn't come from the factory. To me it would be like modifying a parachute, just too much to loose if something is not perfect.

Pierre Belarge · 07-31-2009, 11:57 AM

That falls in line with the stickers that workers like to put on their hardhats. I believe there is some restriction to which types, and what the hardhat has been rated for.

InPhase277 · 07-31-2009, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre Belarge

That falls in line with the stickers that workers like to put on their hardhats. I believe there is some restriction to which types, and what the hardhat has been rated for.

How is a sticker going to compromise a hardhat?

mattsilkwood · 07-31-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by InPhase277

How is a sticker going to compromise a hardhat?

it wont. but it will hide any damage.

mattsilkwood · 07-31-2009, 05:34 PM

i dont think i would add anything to your fr either. just too much liability.

are you guys wearing fr all the time or just when they need it?

MDShunk · 07-31-2009, 05:39 PM

Surely this question has a real answer. I can't be the only one who wants to add company branding to FR clothing.

InPhase277 · 07-31-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mattsilkwood

it wont. but it will hide any damage.

True, but an idiot trying to wear a damaged hardhat deserves all that's coming to him.

ralpha494 · 07-31-2009, 06:51 PM

2009 NFPA 70E 130.7 (C)(16)(d) says in part "When trim, name tags, and/or logos are affixed to FR clothing, guidance in ASTM F 1506, Standard Performance Specification for Flame Resistant Textile Materials for Wearing Apparel for Use by Electrical Workers Exposed to Momentary Electric Arc and Related Thermal Hazards shal be followed.

It probably says whatever the manufacturer says, which would probably be FR thread and patches.

MDShunk · 07-31-2009, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ralpha494

2009 NFPA 70E 130.7 (C)(16)(d) says in part "When trim, name tags, and/or logos are affixed to FR clothing, guidance in ASTM F 1506, Standard Performance Specification for Flame Resistant Textile Materials for Wearing Apparel for Use by Electrical Workers Exposed to Momentary Electric Arc and Related Thermal Hazards shal be followed.

There you go then. Awesome. Thanks!

InPhase277 · 07-31-2009, 07:06 PM

That's cool to know, but has anyone ever uttered the words "Poor fellow. He might have lived if it weren't for that name tag"...?

mattsilkwood · 07-31-2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by InPhase277

True, but an idiot trying to wear a damaged hardhat deserves all that's coming to him.

i agree but it seems like theyre trying to stupid proof everything any more. it wont be long untill were not allowed to go to work, i mean just look at how many work related injuries happen at work.

can you tell i played with sticks and rocks as a child?

Mr. Sparkle · 08-01-2009, 12:23 AM

Reminds me......a friend of mine has a kid and he is so unbelievably overprotected sometimes I want to rip him away from the mom and roll him in dirt outside to prove it's o.k.........It is absolutely crazy, they have rags over every air duct

, purell all over the house......I fear for this child.

brian john · 08-01-2009, 08:46 AM

I see many companies with their logo in their FR coveralls. Ordered this way.

mattsilkwood · 08-01-2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Sparkle

Reminds me......a friend of mine has a kid and he is so unbelievably overprotected sometimes I want to rip him away from the mom and roll him in dirt outside to prove it's o.k.........It is absolutely crazy, they have rags over every air duct

, purell all over the house......I fear for this child.

i know some people like that to.
kinda makes you wanna give him a bb gun and a pocket knife huh.

s.kelly · 08-01-2009, 11:04 AM

I heard second hand from the safety lady on a job that the stickers thing had to do with conductivity and stickers possibly ruining the non conductivity of hard hats.
Not sure that really makes sense to me, and naturally, the next thing she did was hand out the "I've had job xyz safety training" sticker for everyone to put on their hard hat

Shado · 08-01-2009, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by s.kelly

Not sure that really makes sense to me, and naturally, the next thing she did was hand out the "I've had job xyz safety training" sticker for everyone to put on their hard hat

Thats one of them new safety stickers!!
They are nonconductive...If one were to come into contact with electricity....they inflate, pop open, and a blanket drops out and envelops you....

MDShunk · 08-01-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Shado

Thats one of them new safety stickers!!
They are nonconductive...If one were to come into contact with electricity....they inflate, pop open, and a blanket drops out and envelops you....

Certain things, only the Shado knows.

slowforthecones · 08-02-2009, 03:00 AM

5.11 Tactical makes some really good flame retardant treated clothing in their ERT and FRX3 line. I had a pic on here of me wearing their FRX3 line as standard operating clothing.

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Traditional 5.11 pant style
48 bartacks
Triple Stitching
Welted wallet pocket
Kneepad pockets

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MDShunk · 08-02-2009, 09:08 AM

I've done some weird things in my lifetime, but wearing specialized flasher's pants is not one of them.