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08-28-2009, 01:21 PM
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I couldn't resist taking these
Started a garage wire today. The builder was supposed to have it framed up, but on arrival today they were just getting ready to pour the slab.
So I trenched in a line from the house to the garage while they were pouring the 'crete. Before I left, they needed to clean out the floor drain.
I couldn't resist getting the camera out.
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08-28-2009, 04:43 PM
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Are those white concrete guys??
Do you live in Oklahoma or somethin'?
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08-28-2009, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Frasbee
Are those white concrete guys??
Do you live in Oklahoma or somethin'?
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No, I think I have my location properly posted.
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08-28-2009, 04:48 PM
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No, I think I have my location properly posted. 
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Whoops, I glanced under your username, not under your avatar.
(Looks up Iowa on google)
Iowa would've been my second guess.
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08-28-2009, 04:51 PM
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I haven't seen a white concrete finisher in years.
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08-28-2009, 04:54 PM
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I haven't seen a white concrete finisher in years.
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Actually, the guy laying out prone on the 2x is part Mexican. At least he says he is.
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08-28-2009, 05:03 PM
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Where is the pic of you holding the shovel digging the trench?
Be nice to see a tool holding a tool
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08-28-2009, 05:09 PM
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Actually, the guy laying out prone on the 2x is part Mexican. At least he says he is.
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If he says so.
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08-28-2009, 05:18 PM
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Where is the pic of you holding the shovel digging the trench?
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I work alone. No one to take a photo of me.
But if you want, here's the trench I dug:
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08-28-2009, 05:22 PM
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Quote:
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I work alone. No one to take a photo of me.
But if you want, here's the trench I dug:

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You are pretty good dug the ditch, got it inspected and covered up all in the same day.
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08-28-2009, 05:27 PM
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I see a piece of UF.. I know you would not use that to feed the garage.. right?
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08-28-2009, 05:28 PM
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I see a piece of UF.. I know you would not use that to feed the garage.. right? 
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Why not?
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08-28-2009, 05:34 PM
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Because UF is a hack job IMO unless it is sleeved in PVC
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08-28-2009, 05:35 PM
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Because UF is a hack job IMO unless it is sleeved in PVC
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Still perfectly legal, though. Why would you sleeve UF in PVC anyway?
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08-28-2009, 05:38 PM
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Because UF is a hack job IMO unless it is sleeved in PVC
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He did say he works by himself so UF would be the easiest install without some help.
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08-28-2009, 05:42 PM
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He did say he works by himself so UF would be the easiest install without some help.
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25' between house and garage. I think I could pull THHN through two 90s......... if the HO wanted to pay the extra material and labor costs.
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08-28-2009, 05:44 PM
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Still perfectly legal, though. Why would you sleeve UF in PVC anyway?
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I work alone also.. UF never lasts and 30 ft. of 3/4 PVC is cheap insurance that it will last and last....
Takes 10 minutes to snake it through the PVC while the pipe is laying next to the trench
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08-28-2009, 05:47 PM
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I work alone also.. UF never lasts and 30 ft. of 3/4 PVC is cheap insurance that it will last and last....
Takes 10 minutes to snake it through the PVC while the pipe is laying next to the trench 
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Hmm. I've worked on 50-year old UF and it still works just fine. What is PVC going to stop anyway? I don't think it'll slow a DitchWitch or a Vermeer down much.
In the time you spend cutting and gluing pipe, I've got the trench filled back in. And I don't need to pull any wires later.
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08-28-2009, 05:52 PM
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You doing the uf in the conduit the whole way or just in the slab? Just wondering.
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08-28-2009, 05:54 PM
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I've worked on 15 yr old UF that burnt through.. sharp rock.. who knows what is mixed in the back fill...
PVC just gives the wire added protection from what ever would make it fail
IMO it just makes sense.. the materials and labor is peanuts compared with digging a new trench to run a new wire.
This is how I do my jobs.. just seems better
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