480sparky

All of them? All the time?

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manchestersparky

I have to confess-
I have done the pallet on the fork lift thing like in post #36

There was a time in my career I lived and worked by the motto:
Do WHATEVER it takes to make it happen! I worked ( and lived) stupid.
It was like every day was my last and I didn't care

Now years later I'm much smarter and happier then I've ever been!
Of course I have bad knees,and 2 ankles that not worth a dam to remind me of my past.

mikeh32

Faultfinder1

That's simply incredible! All of the posts and pics. I've seen many of these over the years but many are new to me. I think OSHA should cure the unemployment problem by hiring a few thousand inspectors, and give them the power to arrest the clowns that do things like this. I've always felt that stupidity should be illegal, or at least painful!

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Jeff000

Are those two ladders on a couple of saw horses to get a couple more feet out of them?

1900

To be honest, I wouldn't mind going up and then falling off of that one, looks like a nice slide into the snow. You can see by how far he is leaning forward that it really isn't all that steep, I've walked up hills like that.

EDITED TO CLARIFY: I wouldn't WORK like that, I'm just talking about weekend fun

sparkyboys

anything over 4ft requires a harness. climb up and tie off, best solution

1900

What law is that?

I've heard 7 feet, but I have never seen that enforced other than once at the powerhouse and with a 14' stepladder.

sparkyboys

local one. we can make it six inches if you would like.
but anyways, if you do not feel safe wear a harness and tie off. you are supposed to wear one as soon as you enter a scissor lift and boomlift.
always safety first.

1900

Oh, cause when you outright say "anything over 4ft requires a harness." it makes it sounds like it's a law that the person you are talking to has to follow as well. Just like when you said "you are supposed to wear one as soon as you enter a scissor lift" you made it sound like we all are supposed to abide by that rule, when in reality it's not true by OSHA or any law local to me.

Faultfinder1

If I am not mistaken the OSHA reg is 6 feet from your feet to the ground you must be in a harness and secured. Includes scissor lifts and bucket trucks.

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sparkyboys

point proven. thanks faultfinder1.

1900

Proven by what?

sparkyboys

that a haness is required over 4 ft. oh my bad, 1.8 meters or 6 ft.
osha.gov fall protection
read it

The OSHA rule clarifies what an employer must do to provide fall protection for employees, such as identifying and evaluating fall hazards and providing specific training. Requirements to provide fall protection for workers on scaffolds and ladders and for workers engaged in steel erection of buildings arc covered in other subparts of OSHA regulations.
The rule identifies areas or activities where fall protection is needed. These include, but are not limited to, ramps, runways, and other walkways; excavations; hoist areas; holes; formwork and reinforcing steel; leading edge work; unprotected sides and edges; overhand bricklaying and related work; roofing work; precast concrete erection; wall openings; residential construction; and other walking/working surfaces. The rule sets a uniform threshold height of 6 feet (1.8 meters), thereby providing consistent protection. This means that construction employers must protect their employees from fall hazards and falling objects whenever an affected employee is 6 feet (1.8 meters) or more above a lower level. Protection must also be provided for construction workers who are exposed to the hazard of falling into dangerous equipment.

Under the new standard, employers will be able to select fall protection measures compatible with the type of work being performed. Fall protection generally can be provided through the use of guardrail systems, safety net systems, personal fall arrest systems, positioning device systems, and warning line systems, among others.

fall protection includes harnesses

Faultfinder1

I knew that OSHA 30 hour certificate would come in handy one day!! LMAO!

1900

But not limited too. Fall protection includes "guardrail systems" which scissor lifts have already installed.

So what point was proven, that you were wrong about the height or that you were wrong about scissor lift requirements?

Faultfinder1

I realize that it is difficult to determine the "tone" of a message on a discussion board, but you seem to me to be aggressively defending your right to work unsafely. I was going to get my OSHA book out and provide the different regulations for you - but I think that you would still try to argue the point. YES, in bucket trucks (where the bucket comes almost to chest level), and in scissor lifts you are required to wear fall protection. Maybe you should take an OSHA class if the facts and the actual regulations are so important to you.

That's it for me - I use the boards here for better reasons than arguing.


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1900

I'm not defending the right to work unsafely, I'm trying to uncover the facts. Having someone make a blanket statement of fact, and then later admit it's just local law, and then later admit that even the height was wrong is not a fact.
If you could actually prove it, then I wouldn't argue it. But that last time someone said "point proven" it was in response to you saying "If I am not mistaken the OSHA reg is...". Your possibly mistaken recollection doesn't seem like strong enough evidence to prove a point, does it?
Can you cite that? I have been told, not only by an OSHA inspector but by numerous insurance inspectors, that in most case you are not required to have a harness on scissor lifts. Boom lifts are a different story, if the hydraulic line breaks the bucket will tip and the worker can slide right out of the bucket, which is why the inspectors, GC's, etc. always push this rule pretty hard.
I took Osha 30.
I'm sorry for opposing you, and forget about me asking for you to cite the regulation, I wouldn't want to hurt your feelings anymore than I already have. Again, I apologize.

1900

To stir the pot a little, how do you properly protect yourself from a fall when changing a light fixture in a small stairwell at Joe Homeowner's house?

sparkyboys

its still local law where i am dummy, 4ft. i proved my point above. NOW take it........in the ASS