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10-30-2009, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
I talked to a friend yesterday from Indiana who was just hired to come to IRAQ as a Master Electrician and he told me that a 21 year old person was given a Master's License!
He also mentioned that the State of Kentucky realized that they made a serious mistake and took it back and gave him a journeyman's license instead.
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How old do you have to be to become a master electrician?
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10-30-2009, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by william1978
How old do you have to be to become a master electrician?
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do the math.
14000hrs / 2000 per year = 7 years; with OT maybe shave that down to 6.
if you do well on tests and left high school early... 22
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10-30-2009, 08:01 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by BryanMD
do the math.
14000hrs / 2000 per year = 7 years; with OT maybe shave that down to 6.
if you do well on tests and left high school early... 22
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I had about 14,000 hrs by the age of 22 and did not leave school early.
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10-30-2009, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by william1978
I had about 14,000 hrs by the age of 22 and did not leave school early.
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did you get a gold star?
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10-30-2009, 08:48 PM
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I am a RAT.
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Originally Posted by BryanMD
did you get a gold star?
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Huh? 
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10-30-2009, 09:21 PM
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They're giving gold stars now?!!!!
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Originally Posted by BryanMD
did you get a gold star?
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11-03-2009, 12:24 PM
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Joe, what about states where there are no licenses? In some states the only licenses are for contractors. In those situations, it might be counterintuitive for a worker to get his Electrical Contractor's License, some contractors look down on employing a worker with a contractors license who might soon be his competition. Some unions look down on that too (unless you are sign with them, of course).
So how do you feel about states where there are no licenses for workers (no Master or Journeyman license)? In that situation, what is the difference between an electrician and a day laborer from the Home Depot parking lot?
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11-03-2009, 03:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EDM
Joe, what about states where there are no licenses? In some states the only licenses are for contractors. In those situations, it might be counterintuitive for a worker to get his Electrical Contractor's License, some contractors look down on employing a worker with a contractors license who might soon be his competition. Some unions look down on that too (unless you are sign with them, of course).
So how do you feel about states where there are no licenses for workers (no Master or Journeyman license)? In that situation, what is the difference between an electrician and a day laborer from the Home Depot parking lot?
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OK, please identify those States that do not require licensing first.
I can say that it scares me though thinking about some parking lot wino or whiskey pot head who is called an "electrician." 
The whole purpose of my bumping this thread was because of what I had to deal with in IRAQ.
The third world so called electricians who had no formal training or experience whatsoever on using the NEC who were acting as, and in some caes running the entire electrician's shop as an Apprentice.
I asked some a few questions so simple that the first day apprentice here could answer and got a dumb stupid blind eye.
I believe that there is a list of States somewhere who required licensing. Maybe someone can supply that informatio here. In the meantime it is good to be home!
Last edited by Joe Tedesco; 11-03-2009 at 04:05 PM.
Reason: Spelling police!
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11-03-2009, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
OK, please identify those States that do not require licensing first.
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New Jersey is a state without any type of Electrician License, only a Contractor License. I know there are more. Pennsylvania doesn't even require a Contractor's License.
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11-03-2009, 04:02 PM
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NJ Journeyman License.
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Originally Posted by EDM
New Jersey is a state without any type of Electrician License, only a Contractor License. I know there are more. Pennsylvania doesn't even require a Contractor's License.
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I found this application for a NJ Journeyman's License.
New Jersey Application
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11-03-2009, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
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That's an application, not a requirement.
Joe, are you going to try to refute that there are states that don't have requirements for journeyman or master licenses?
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11-03-2009, 05:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EDM
That's an application, not a requirement.
Joe, are you going to try to refute that there are states that don't have requirements for journeyman or master licenses?
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Missouri does not require a state license but most of the large metro areas do St Louis,Kansas City,Columbia,Jefferson City,Springield,Cape Girerdeu.Joplin all use Prometric and many small citys require a license.St Louis County also requires a license.
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11-03-2009, 06:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rewire
Missouri does not require a state license...
but most of the large metro areas do.
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really? gee, I wonder why that is?
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11-03-2009, 07:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanMD
really? gee, I wonder why that is?
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The state leaves it to the municipalities would be a whole lot easier if it was one license we did get a provision passed last year that a St Louis County license was good anywere in the state you just had to pay the municple license fee I think that will be the first step.
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11-03-2009, 07:46 PM
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Several years ago, the state had prisoners installing underground conduit, our union considered this a violation since they did not have a licence. Union or not, this should not happen.
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11-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky970
Several years ago, the state had prisoners installing underground conduit, our union considered this a violation since they did not have a licence. Union or not, this should not happen.
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We had the Laborer's union (LIUNA) doing that work here!
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11-03-2009, 08:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rewire
The state leaves it to the municipalities...
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Leonard: For God's sake, Sheldon, do I have to hold up a sarcasm sign every time I open my mouth?
Sheldon ( intrigued): You have a sarcasm sign?
(yeah, I found a quotes page and rewire there are "other reasons" at play)
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11-03-2009, 08:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanMD
Leonard: For God's sake, Sheldon, do I have to hold up a sarcasm sign every time I open my mouth?
Sheldon (intrigued): You have a sarcasm sign?
(yeah, I found a quotes page and rewire there are "other reasons" at play)
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I love TBBT.
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11-04-2009, 01:25 PM
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Master Electrician
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanMD
Leonard: For God's sake, Sheldon, do I have to hold up a sarcasm sign every time I open my mouth?
Sheldon (intrigued): You have a sarcasm sign?
(yeah, I found a quotes page and rewire there are "other reasons" at play)
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 well some head butting between the IBEW and the IEC over ratio and proceedure
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