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Old 10-19-2009, 04:55 PM   #41
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where did you get this bob - this would have been very helpful the other day
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Not sure if you're talking to him or me, but I would not at all put it past this company to violate code out of convenience.

would not put it past em
be careful
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The worst part of the story is the contractor sends a kid down in a hole to examine an energized cable that may have been damaged. Both cables should have been de-energized before anyone went down to check the damage. I know a guy who when he was an apprentice got rapped from a 277V. light fixture. All because the forman did not want to turn off the circuit because it was in a hospital. The kid fell from the ladder and hit his head. The resulting fall damaged the part of his brain that controls the sense of taste and smell.
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where did you get this bob - this would have been very helpful the other day

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Old 10-19-2009, 07:53 PM   #45
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Frasbee, I don't know what you are trying to prove or who you are trying to impress. You do not belong on any circuit that is hot or energized. Period. Does the company you work for have a safety program? Do they have a safety director? Judging from your other posts it seems as if you have something to prove. It does not have to be proven to us. Are you going to apprenticeship school? If so they should also be teaching you safety there also. One last question, do you know what lockout tagout is.

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You're lucky you did not become that "path". You would not be here typing.
If he wasn't the path to ground, how did he get shocked? Either he was grounded in some way, or there was more than one knick in the cable and he touched two conductors.
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If he wasn't the path to ground, how did he get shocked? Either he was grounded in some way, or there was more than one knick in the cable and he touched two conductors.
I was holding a wet rag and I have no doubts there was more than one knick in the cord.

I didn't clean it off enough to see.

It was just an intense tingling feeling, but only isolated to my hand.
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I was holding a wet rag and I have no doubts there was more than one knick in the cord.

I didn't clean it off enough to see.

It was just an intense tingling feeling, but only isolated to my hand.
Makes perfect sense then.


When I was younger and even dumber than I am now I was replacing receptacles in the floor of a shopping mall, the floor was tile. The stranded wire was going directly under the screw so I would make sure I wasn't touching anything else while I twisted the strands of the hot wire together to make it neater. I didn't get shocked because I wasn't grounded. I was laying on my stomach, but there wasn't a good enough path to ground- until one day when it was hot and humid and my sweat mixed with the moist grout on the floor made a better path to ground and gave me a good tingle.
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