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Old 12-25-2016, 05:11 PM   #41
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There are lots of us space cases in the trades. The reason it works for us is we perform well with a blend of physical and mental stimulation. ADD is not an attention deficit. If you have ever experienced hyperfocus you know what I am talking about.
oh i know exactly what you're talking about and agree 100%. i think i'm v lucky to be in a situation where the work is interesting and there's something really good and interesting to focus ON!

i've found the drugs made it easier for me to follow directions and avoid stupid mistakes, your mileage may vary. the nurse practitioner who prescribed them told me that focus was a muscle which seemed accurate because i seemed to get thru high school without too much trouble; i guess since i've taken a break i've become stupid.

i promise i'm not Actually This Whiny you guys i actually have a really good attitude on the job; all the work i did before this was really menial and i'm happy to take out the garbage all day long if that's what's required of me.

that said i hugely appreciate the encouragement and positivity and advice and wise insight, you guys make my day.
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Old 12-25-2016, 05:12 PM   #42
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Do you find you hyperfocus so intensely that your ability to formulate and string words descriptively jump around , sound funny 99?

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Actually I haven't, chicken dude. I have experienced intense periods of hyperfocus a few times in my life. By "periods" I mean a two to three month period when one idea or mission consumes me 24/7. Nothing else really matters. It's a time when the conscious and subconscious minds are in complete alignment. I become focused on the same thing while awake and asleep.

It's so intense it scares the hell out of my family. It doesn't scare me because I know it will come to an end. It's not a manic high, it's entirely different.

It's a time when incredible things can be accomplished. I have tried to create hyperfocus but with limited results. I have to wait for something to grab me.

I feel one coming on, though...
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Old 12-25-2016, 06:18 PM   #43
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i promise i'm not Actually This Whiny you guys i actually have a really good attitude on the job; all the work i did before this was really menial and i'm happy to take out the garbage all day long if that's what's required of me.

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We've all hauled the trash , and we've all whined about it at some point in our past TokenOne

Stick around, you've a millenia of experience at your fingertips, albeit a tad old & cranky at times.... ~S~
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Actually I haven't, chicken dude. I have experienced intense periods of hyperfocus a few times in my life. By "periods" I mean a two to three month period when one idea or mission consumes me 24/7. Nothing else really matters. It's a time when the conscious and subconscious minds are in complete alignment. I become focused on the same thing while awake and asleep.

It's so intense it scares the hell out of my family. It doesn't scare me because I know it will come to an end. It's not a manic high, it's entirely different.

It's a time when incredible things can be accomplished. I have tried to create hyperfocus but with limited results. I have to wait for something to grab me.

I feel one coming on, though...
That would seem like an OC thing 99

No, i mean more that your mind is going 400mph, and you're only able to orate @ 40mph

Trouble is , said connection creates oratory misfires , for lack of a better word, speech is far too slow.....


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ADD? I have ADD, assessed by a psychiatrist with ADD herself (those sessions were entertaining to say the least ). She said I was "pure" ADD, nothing manic, just pure ADD.

There are lots of us space cases in the trades. The reason it works for us is we perform well with a blend of physical and mental stimulation. ADD is not an attention deficit. If you have ever experienced hyperfocus you know what I am talking about.

The difficulty we have is the mind cloud. We are intelligent people but there are times when we can't put two and two together. One of my tricks is talking to myself. It seems to match the speed of my brain to the speed of the task at hand. It slows my brain down. The other thing I try to do is make an assembly line out of my work. If I'm assembling fixtures, for example, I assemble a number of fixtures at the same time (that's just an efficient way of doing things anyway).

Sometimes when I'm hit with a mind cloud, I'll just stop, walk around and inspect my work. At least it makes it look like I'm doing something when, in actual fact, I'm just waiting for my brain to function. It also helps in the search for misplaced tools .

I don't take meds. I tried Adderall once and it was amazing but I have just learned to fumble my way through without it.

If you're telling me you have poor attention to detail, I don't believe you for a minute. If you excel at math, that proves otherwise. Sure, we can be "all or nothing" but you can develop a routine and train your brain to meet in the middle.
Yes to all of this! Me too!!

Worth noting: Talking to oneself. . I am always telling apprentices and other tradesmen how a real electrician talks to him/herself (and sings sometimes!). That's how you know if it's the real deal. You have to be a bit "kooky" in some way.

I also "suffer" from some ADD. Un-medicated. I have learned to use it to my advantage ie: the "hyperfocus" that 99 mentions.
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Yes to all of this! Me too!!

Worth noting: Talking to oneself. . I am always telling apprentices and other tradesmen how a real electrician talks to him/herself (and sings sometimes!). That's how you know if it's the real deal. You have to be a bit "kooky" in some way.

I also "suffer" from some ADD. Un-medicated. I have learned to use it to my advantage ie: the "hyperfocus" that 99 mentions.
Taking meds is a personal decision. They have helped me to deal with a few things but I am always wary of side effects. I prefer to deal with things with a clear mind even though that clear mind can be very unclear a times, if that makes any sense.

One thing that drives me crazy is not being able to see things right in front of my face. An object can be there, I just don't see it. It happens many times a day. If I walk away and come back, the object can suddenly appear.

My psychiatrist asked me about the diagram on the stove at home, where the four dots represent the burners. She asked me if I got them mixed up, if I couldn't relate the dots to the actual burner locations. I said, "Absolutely!". She said it was an indication of ADD .
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That would seem like an OC thing 99

No, i mean more that your mind is going 400mph, and you're only able to orate @ 40mph

Trouble is , said connection creates oratory misfires , for lack of a better word, speech is far too slow.....


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I actually find writing is another way to assemble my thoughts. It's another way to match the speed of my brain to the speed of the task at hand.

I don't know if this has anything to do with ADD but it's a good story: Last week I had to do some work on a T5 highbay in a shop but there was a pickup truck in the way. I couldn't move the truck. I couldn't figure out how to do it. I walked away and then it suddenly occurred to me to use an 8' stepladder in the bed of the truck. Done .
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it's possible I'm an extreme outlier as I've always struggled to relate to other women.
Not at all. Most women don't like other women.
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Not at all. Most women don't like other women.
only the insecure, stupid ones who think they're supposed to be fighting with each other over guys.

i had a lot of guy friends in college it was pretty comfortable for me, it's kind of hard to know where i fall on this continuum now. i've wasted a lot of time trying to recreate those relationships but mostly failed, i think because these idiots were also trying to date me.

another question for you all: how do you know if you have any mechanical ability? i seem to be okay at fixing stuff around the house (after i screw it up the first few times) but when i get on a worksite it becomes over 9000 times harder. i figure the problem is that i just don't know anything and have no experience but jesus christ it's embarrassing.
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only the insecure, stupid ones who think they're supposed to be fighting with each other over guys.

i had a lot of guy friends in college it was pretty comfortable for me, it's kind of hard to know where i fall on this continuum now. i've wasted a lot of time trying to recreate those relationships but mostly failed, i think because these idiots were also trying to date me.

another question for you all: how do you know if you have any mechanical ability? i seem to be okay at fixing stuff around the house (after i screw it up the first few times) but when i get on a worksite it becomes over 9000 times harder. i figure the problem is that i just don't know anything and have no experience but jesus christ it's embarrassing.
Stage fright? Nobody is watching at home.
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