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Old 10-07-2016, 12:47 AM   #21
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I interpreted the code as wall counter tops being countertops along the wall line not receptacles mounted in the wall above counter tops. The idea being all kitchen appliances come with a 2ft cord they don't want people running extension cords on the counters. Still think the rough in inspector should have caught that. They're usually quick to catch stuff in the kitchen it seems like.
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Old 10-07-2016, 02:23 AM   #22
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OP: Give us the end of the story, please.
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:20 AM   #23
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OP: Give us the end of the story, please.
I can do that for him. No fix , no final, no check. So now that wall countertop has some kind of receptacle outlets in it......
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Old 11-24-2016, 07:55 AM   #24
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I got called on outlet spacing in a dining room because the inspector counted the fixed side of a sliding glass door as wall space. It would seem that each inspector is different. You need to learn how to read minds
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I got called on outlet spacing in a dining room because the inspector counted the fixed side of a sliding glass door as wall space. It would seem that each inspector is different. You need to learn how to read minds
It is wall space. No different than a window that goes to the floor.
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I got called on outlet spacing in a dining room because the inspector counted the fixed side of a sliding glass door as wall space. It would seem that each inspector is different. You need to learn how to read minds
No mind reading required, just regular reading.

This has been a code for as long as I can remember:

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210.52(A)(2) Wall Space.

As used in this section, a wall space shall include the following:
  1. Any space 600 mm (2 ft) or more in width (including space measured around corners) and unbroken along the floor line by doorways and similar openings, fireplaces, and fixed cabinets
  2. The space occupied by fixed panels in exterior walls, excluding sliding panels
  3. The space afforded by fixed room dividers, such as freestanding bar-type counters or railings
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Interesting, the Canadian rule* is explicitly the opposite when it comes to windows that extend to the floor. Still seems like a good idea to include that space especially with larger doors (Sliding door at my place is 4' wide; 8' total) because I bet a lot of space heaters get set in front of the fixed portion.

*26-712(c) the usable wall space referred to in Item (a) shall include a wall space 900 mm or more in width but shall not include doorways, areas occupied by a door when fully opened, windows that extend to the floor, fireplaces, or other permanent installations that would limit the use of the wall space;

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No mind reading required, just regular reading.

This has been a code for as long as I can remember:
Good to know. I didn't believe it until you posted the code.
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So if the wall space is defined as a fixed panel in an exterior wall then the window would count as wall space.

We have installed sillite receptacles in the sill of the window and that covers us.

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This kind of thing can happen when you have one inspector doing rough in and another doing the final. I had a tricky job last year and cleared some things with the inspector during rough in. For the final, the boss inspector was working relief and failed me. I couldn't go over his head because he was the boss .
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You cannot expect an inspector to catch something like kitchen cabinets on a rough in. He/she amy have assumed you were going to use a pop up receptacle or -plug mold etc...
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