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Old 10-18-2009, 10:27 PM   #21
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bob the wire is approved to be run inside the walls in the jacket it comes with as well be exposed inside the cabinet in nyc never had a problem with none of the inspectors , can you show me which article in chapter 3 please thanks
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Old 10-18-2009, 10:30 PM   #22
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bob the wire is approved to be run inside the walls in the jacket it comes with as well be exposed inside the cabinet in nyc never had a problem with none of the inspectors , can you show me which article in chapter 3 please thanks
It's not in Chapter 3, but 4. Anything listed in T400.4 cannot be concealed per 400.8(A).
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I cant stand wire mold. I would hate to have to bend over everytime I plug and unplug. IMO plug mold is for folks that dont acually use appliances to cook.
Besides whats wrong with looking at outlets...? I would much rather have it in a conveinet location. I also wouldnt like to have to go to my basement to reset a gfci breaker. Not that gfcis trip all that much.
Man you are so right. the only reason someone (the designer) wants them (plugstrips) is so they can take nice photos of the backsplash when the job is done. Honestly, they look like crap when you have a bunch of cords plugged in them. And yeah, they aint fun to install, just like with uc lights you must run seperate whips for each one from a j-box where your gfi is installed under the sink and even then they leave about one inch of space to hit the terminals. Plus, they trip the hell out of gfi's Those things are a hacks wetdream.
And on the topic of gfi's throughout the backsplash, it really depends on how big that countertop really is. I can understand maybe five or six gfi's at the most... after that, f it, just line/load the receptacles.
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If you really want high-end, use GFI breakers and spec grade receptacles.
What I used to do in nicer homes using Plug Mold, instead of using a GFCI breaker pick a spot on the wall or baseboard where you'd have to put a receptacle anyway and make that your GFCI location. No having to go to the panel to reset anything. It's all in the kitchen nice and convenient with no extra work or cost.
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It's not in Chapter 3, but 4. Anything listed in T400.4 cannot be concealed per 400.8(A).
It is also in 411.
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Old 10-19-2009, 06:37 PM   #26
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it never fails when it gets inspected here is the link to the products

http://www.seagulllighting.com/Linear-Lighting.htm
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What I used to do in nicer homes using Plug Mold, instead of using a GFCI breaker pick a spot on the wall or baseboard where you'd have to put a receptacle anyway and make that your GFCI location. No having to go to the panel to reset anything. It's all in the kitchen nice and convenient with no extra work or cost.
sometimes i do the same thing for lighting in the bathroom rather that using a faceless GFCI.
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bob the wire is approved to be run inside the walls in the jacket it comes with as well be exposed inside the cabinet in nyc never had a problem with none of the inspectors , can you show me which article in chapter 3 please thanks
The hell it is

They even make little splice boxes to transition to the lv wire once you get OUTSIDE the wall
You are going to be in for a big surprize one day
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It all comes down to money - these are tract homes... thrown together by a bunch of illegals and sold for top dollar.

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i just worked for a company that did these track houses thrown together fast shotty craftsmanship no attention to detail just a shame
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