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04-08-2009, 03:36 PM
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Found this gem yesterday...
I have worked on this cottage a few times, but never got down to this end until yesterday... The real scary part is that the romex on the left went to an outlet in the bathroom that of course wasn't grounded!!!
then the after pic...
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04-08-2009, 03:47 PM
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Wish I was in the water
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Is that NMC? My interpretation would have that as a damp location, which NM is not allowed. But at least it is safer that the previous install and the recept. is grounded.
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04-08-2009, 03:56 PM
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Its actually very dry, surprisingly. So I wouldn't consider it a damp location, or else I would have run some conduit...
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04-08-2009, 04:02 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg
Is that NMC? My interpretation would have that as a damp location, which NM is not allowed. But at least it is safer that the previous install and the recept. is grounded.
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if thats the case, they would have to rewire every house in New Orleans...almost every house is raised , and there is nm-b run underneath...thats ridiculous to even consider that a wet or damp location
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04-08-2009, 04:11 PM
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Absolutely mind-boggling. They didn't even wrap the wirenuts with tape!
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04-08-2009, 04:20 PM
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Ha! one wirenut I took off, the wire broke off!! Whoever did that twisted the hell out of the wires... Not like it makes it legal if you twist them really good though!
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04-08-2009, 04:37 PM
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i hate crawl spaces
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04-08-2009, 04:42 PM
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Just curious...are those cables run along the ground? 
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04-08-2009, 04:46 PM
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I wonder if that metal plate between the post and beam can build up a nice 120v charge........ 
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04-08-2009, 05:39 PM
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Wow I've seen several jobs like that one. Do it yourselfer
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04-08-2009, 06:38 PM
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the h.o. saved 2 cents buying thhn instead of romex
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04-08-2009, 06:44 PM
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the h.o. saved 2 cents buying thhn instead of romex
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Only if they were going to buy 3 times as much romex as the 3times as much THHN that was used. 
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04-08-2009, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NolaTigaBait
if thats the case, they would have to rewire every house in New Orleans...almost every house is raised , and there is nm-b run underneath...thats ridiculous to even consider that a wet or damp location
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Just looking at def. that's all. The few crawl spaces I've been in, is wet. It's hard to find dry ground in Florida even in the sand ridge area of the state. I just like to go the extra step to avoid call backs.
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04-08-2009, 07:12 PM
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You dig that piece of romex up out of the back yard before you used it? It looks like it's been through the war.
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04-08-2009, 07:29 PM
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its amazing what you find in crawl spaces. i had to fix many flying splices because of hacks through out the century
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04-08-2009, 07:29 PM
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i hate handy boxes as well 
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04-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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child please.....
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i hate handy boxes as well |
i swear, i was thinking the same thing
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04-08-2009, 07:39 PM
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child please.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg
Just looking at def. that's all. The few crawl spaces I've been in, is wet. It's hard to find dry ground in Florida even in the sand ridge area of the state. I just like to go the extra step to avoid call backs.
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what would you do?...use nm-c...or uf?????...
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04-08-2009, 07:40 PM
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whyd you change it? looked fine to me ha ha ha
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04-08-2009, 07:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
You dig that piece of romex up out of the back yard before you used it? It looks like it's been through the war.
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If it was through the war it would be fuzzy and silver colored not yellow...at least it may be from this century. Plus I would label it "Sloppy Seconds".
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