Nice.... - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum

fdew · 05-30-2009, 10:33 PM

I don't know what to say.

Frank

**MDShunk** · 05-30-2009, 10:37 PM

Crazy. File that under "whuddareyoukiddinme".

I bet that's been there for more than 90 days.

william1978 · 05-30-2009, 11:36 PM

That is nice.

**480sparky** · 05-30-2009, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdew

I don't know what to say.

Frank

I do.

bobelectric · 05-31-2009, 10:20 AM

Temporary up to 90 days,correct?

**480sparky** · 05-31-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobelectric

Temporary up to 90 days,correct?

590.3 Time Constraints.
(A) During the Period of Construction. Temporary electric power and lighting installations shall be permitted during the period of construction, remodeling, maintenance, repair, or demolition of buildings, structures, equipment, or similar activities.
(B) 90 Days. Temporary electric power and lighting installations shall be permitted for a period not to exceed 90 days for holiday decorative lighting and similar purposes.
(C) Emergencies and Tests. Temporary electric power and lighting installations shall be permitted during emergencies and for tests, experiments, and developmental work.
(D) Removal. Temporary wiring shall be removed immediately upon completion of construction or purpose for which the wiring was installed.

Raise your hand if you can recall Article 305.

davis9 · 05-31-2009, 03:00 PM

Unless it was installed by an electrician and a permit was pulled there is nothing wrong with it....

Tom

Now if there was....

**MDShunk** · 05-31-2009, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davis9

Unless it was installed by an electrician and a permit was pulled there is nothing wrong with it....

Huh? Does it suddenly become a safe and compliant installation because it was installed by a DIY-er?

user4818 · 05-31-2009, 04:53 PM

I fail to see the hazard here. Those are all fuse protected plugs.

Now, if this is not on a GFCI, then there's a problem.

**MDShunk** · 05-31-2009, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter D

I fail to see the hazard here. Those are all fuse protected plugs.

Now, if this is not on a GFCI, then there's a problem.

Unattended use of extension cords.

user4818 · 05-31-2009, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDShunk

Unattended use of extension cords.

I don't like the rubber cord either. I'd much rather see a Type SJTW or some other cord type that is more weather resistant.

steelersman · 05-31-2009, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter D

I fail to see the hazard here. Those are all fuse protected plugs.

Now, if this is not on a GFCI, then there's a problem.

I honestly must say that I agree. I don't see a danger here either. Even if they weren't individually fuse protected, I don't see any danger. From what I can imagine, the worse thing that can happen is that you plug too many in and it causes the circuit breaker to trip.

davis9 · 05-31-2009, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDShunk

Huh? Does it suddenly become a safe and compliant installation because it was installed by a DIY-er?

No need to be compliant? Safe is another story... In my state you do not need to pull a permit to do this install for free or for yourself. Not saying it's safe but who is going to enforce it? Maybe a call from a concerned neighbor will prompt a visit from a Building official but do they have to visit the site at day 1 and then day 91? What if they unplug it during inclement weather?

Tom

**MDShunk** · 05-31-2009, 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davis9

No need to be compliant?

The fact that a permit or a qualified installer is not required is no relief from the requirement of the law (inasmuch as the NEC, more or less, is adopted as law). I'll be happy to concede that nobody's likely to care about this, likely no one will get hurt, and even if you "turned it in" enforcement action is unlikely to result.

davis9 · 05-31-2009, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MDShunk

The fact that a permit or a qualified installer is not required is no relief from the requirement of the law (inasmuch as the NEC, more or less, is adopted as law). I'll be happy to concede that nobody's likely to care about this, likely no one will get hurt, and even if you "turned it in" enforcement action is unlikely to result.

I concur.

Tom

electricalperson · 05-31-2009, 06:16 PM

theres christmas lights up year round in the back yard of my house theres a couple cords running through the yard but its all protected by a gfci

220/221 · 05-31-2009, 08:51 PM

Don't worry, it was plugged in here.

vinster888 · 05-31-2009, 08:56 PM

you dont even want to see my personal christmas setups. when you got major amounts of crap its cords aplenty.

erics37 · 06-01-2009, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 220/221

I'm not sure if there's enough glue on those joints.

cdnelectrician · 06-01-2009, 02:12 AM

Hehehe reminds me of a job some handy man did for an old customer of mine. He wanted lights on his tennis court that was about 300 meters from the panel to the back corner of the tennis court. So the guy runs PVC along the fence line (with no intention of burying it) and pulls 12/2 NMWU in the pvc. He was going to put 12 150 watt quartz lamps on one circuit. At 120 volts, I don't even think the lights would have lit up. Not to mention the 15 amp breaker would have popped. Well, I get there to fix it and he wanted me to save some of the NMWU that was in the pipe. But the guy pieced the PVC over the wire and then glued it. There was so much glue I couldnt get the wire out.