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Old 01-04-2017, 12:24 PM   #1
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What to do if someone were remove your tag out? Then did a modification and they(offender) are not an apprentice or electrician?

This is in accordance to Canadian law
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:55 PM   #2
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The first thing to do is make sure there aren't any witnesses when you beat the sh#t out of them.
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The first thing to do is make sure there aren't any witnesses when you beat the sh#t out of them.

Oops, I just noticed you're in Canada,but that's what we'd do in the good old USA.
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From what I recall, it can be a Criminal Code offense, even if no injury occurs. I would call the Ministry of Labour from a pay-phone, and just ask some questions.
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If this is something you pulled a permit on and the guy made some modifications I'd act in kind and make a few mods to his body. We have crab traps to bait soon.
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I don't know Canada stuff, but a good tune-up maybe.......with a hockey stick?

Seriously, I would follow AK's advice.
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From what I recall, it can be a Criminal Code offense, even if no injury occurs. I would call the Ministry of Labour from a pay-phone, and just ask some questions.
This seems like the best thing to do. Thank you
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From what I recall, it can be a Criminal Code offense, even if no injury occurs. I would call the Ministry of Labour from a pay-phone, and just ask some questions.
Next question would be "where do I find a pay phone"
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Next question would be "where do I find a pay phone"
Actually there is one like 1 mins away, plus there is always the subway station.
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What to do if someone were remove your tag out? Then did a modification and they(offender) are not an apprentice or electrician?

This is in accordance to Canadian law
Are we talking LOTO? If so I would grab my lock and walk away if they did it when I was not on the job. If I was in an industrial environment I would report it to the main man.
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Kick it up to your manager, compliance officer, whatever. Asking some under the radar questions to the authorities ain't a bad idea either just so you know where you stands now and in future situations.

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I offer free cosmetic surgery preformed with a conduit bender as a prize for screwing with my locks.
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From what I recall, it can be a Criminal Code offense, even if no injury occurs. I would call the Ministry of Labour from a pay-phone, and just ask some questions.
What's a pay phone?
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What's a pay phone?
Was just thinking that
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What to do if someone were remove your tag out? Then did a modification and they(offender) are not an apprentice or electrician?

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Who is the 'someone' ? Is this Industrial, and a mechanic removed it ?
First time it happened ? Why did he/she remove it ? Are there ongoing issues between trades here ?

Tag outs I've used are with a key lock ... is this the case? if so, where did they get the key ?

Did you talk to the person who did it ? What did they say ?

I could go on ....

Don't get me wrong, if someone removed my lock out, there would be a sh!t show ... but you really didn't give many details
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What's a pay phone?
Yeah, on tv the bad guys are always using burner phones when they want to be anonymous. Nobody has time to drive around looking for pay phones.
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anyone here have a FREE phone? hook me up!
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anyone here have a FREE phone? hook me up!
I doubt any one here has an Obama-phone.

On second thought there could be three members that possibly may...
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My two cents as both a longtime industrial electrician and H&S rep - get some answers! The life you save might be your own. The "green book" puts the onus on the employer to have a LOTO program and to enforce it. Without the generation of a paper trail on this incident, it never happened. That's how the MOL would look at it.
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I've seen dumb-asses forget to take their lock(s) off before going home at the
end of the day and then whine endlessly cause someone else cut the lock off.
So, the right action depends on the details.
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P & L;
I've been on both sides of the "dumb-ass" argument you present. Once it has been confirmed that "dumbass" has left the building - and only then, is it permissible to cut off the lock. Personally, I'd want to confirm that he was finished and forgot about the lock instead of assuming anything.
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