sparkysteve

We pulled some in today. 350' of 350 mcm. No lube just as they claim. Absolutely amazing stuff. No lube! Pulled in better than regular wire with lube. No mess. Too bad we can't tell newbies that there's a free set of strippers at the bottom of the lube bucket. Our boss wanted to try it out, the foreman says he'll order more. EC&M has a free DVD about it in the issue I got yesterday. I'm not sure if it costs more, but it should save some labor. http://www.southwire.com/processGetP...redProduct.jsp

MDShunk

I've been using it, mostly because there doesn't seem to be a cost adder for it. My regular supply house is a Southwire dealer, and they've switched to pretty much all SimPull. I still use lube, but I'm kinda funny that way.

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Greg

That sounds like good stuff there. Yesterday we pulled 200' of 500. I had a tugger, 1 moron, 1 apprentice and another electrician and a bucket of lube. Maybe I could've eliminated 1 moron.

brian john

EC&M included a DVD on this in this months issue.

coderj

Wait, so there really is a set of strippers at the bottom of the lube bucket. Dammit, I spent 15 minutes and I couldn't find them .

Seriously, buddy of mine raves about this stuff. Then again, he works on switchgear and such on a daily basis, probably makes his life easy .

te12co2w

I hadn't heard of this stuff until I saw it here. This is a great site. How does it pull in grc? That is the real test for me. emt and pvc are usually a lot easier to pull through than rigid imo.

sparkysteve

It works great in rigid too. Well IMC at least.

bburnette

There are problems with this. You can't assume it will for any pull, number of bends, number of conductors and size of wire. We just pulled 347ft of 4C 500 THHN in EMT and we damage the nylon jacket. The pulling force started out much lower but around the 3rd bend it rose to a high value and was surging.
Everything seemed to work but when we did our megger we had a dead short to ground on one phase. Pulled the wire back out and it was damaged. We are still going to lube for large wire and several bends. Good concept for all but the tougher pulls

gatti

you could of also elimanated the apprentice too.

dowmace

agreed we did a 300' pull of 3/0 into 3" but it had 3 90s and a 45 kick in it and we had problems with the outside skin coming off also.

Speedy Petey

OUCH!

bburnette

the Southwire rep told us about Aluminum THHN Simpull so we tried that for the 300 and 500 copper pulls. We used 500 and 750 AL. It was in colors just like the copper with Simpull but half the weight. We saved about $160,000 bucks using the Al. Had a few problems with the engineer but got buy them. I think Simpull Al THHN is the way to go. Lower pulling tensions and cheaper.

randomkiller

But you sounded pretty negative about it in your other post. You think the aluminum is better than copper? how would that change the jacket problems???

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Mountain Electrician

I love the SimPull things in life.

randomkiller

Me too, sex, handguns, whiskey, tools, muscle cars, music, kids, the wife, not in any special order there.

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Control Freak

Dowmace,
just curious all those bends and no pullboxes or condulets???????

just joking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a side note we recently did a pull like this with the simpull thhn using dyna blue wire ease and it seems like if the lube comes in contact with the actual copper of the conductor it changes the megger reading!!!!!!

dowmace

hey I don't make the calls on commercial jobs I just did what the boss man said!

bburnette

the aluminum was half the weight to the pulling force was much lower. We had no problems with the Al wire. The main thing was the cost. Saved $160,000 smackers. I think the Al will be OK. We will go back and do a thermal scan and look for hot spots.

bburnette

anybody tried aluminum THHN ? You can get than in Simpull too. Given the price and light weight , seems like the way to go.

Mountain Electrician

My supplier says its about 4% higher across the board, but IMO well worth it.