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05-13-2009, 11:53 PM
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Bought an old, used, knock out set....
I got a really good deal. There's just one thing that's confusing me...
It's a very old set. My draw stud for half inch has a square head, not a six sided head like the larger draw stud.
I've never seen that before? I guess I could use an adjustable wrench on it... but that sucks. I have some ratcheting wrenches and sockets I'd much, much rather use....
Anyone seen this before?
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05-13-2009, 11:57 PM
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You must 'Work' for the good stuff. Channel locks! 1 size fits all.
For another $40, you could have bought new. everything comes with a price.
Work it-earn it-then sell it. 
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05-14-2009, 12:15 AM
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I worked for the money to buy the tools. If that isn't good enough for you, you can piss off.
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05-14-2009, 12:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
I worked for the money to buy the tools. If that isn't good enough for you, you can piss off.
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Wow! your sensitive (you may want to lose that  )! I meant no harm.
I'm glad you got it.
Now you know where we all start, you buy what you can afford,let it make you money and then buy the tools that work for you.
Everything sucks when your starting out.
It's called a 'Right of passage'.
Now Piss off your self!
Welcome! And enjoy the forums.
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05-14-2009, 01:18 AM
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you must not have looked at it. just gave the money up and dipped. use a crescent. no biggie
dont buy tools unless you absolutely have to.
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05-14-2009, 01:26 AM
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What you need is an 8 point socket. Craftsman has them in all different sizes and drive sizes. Around $5.00
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05-14-2009, 01:36 AM
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I would just pick up a new draw stud if it bothers you but a standard 1" wrench or a 12 pt. socket/ratcheting wrench will work on it, but If you need to use a socket/ratcheting wrench you have to use one two sizes smaller aka. 7/8" for the 1" head on your KO set.
Last edited by Lz_69; 05-14-2009 at 01:39 AM.
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05-14-2009, 01:49 AM
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I believe the one greenie is talking about, is this drawstud:
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05-14-2009, 05:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
I got a really good deal. There's just one thing that's confusing me...
It's a very old set. My draw stud for half inch has a square head, not a six sided head like the larger draw stud.
I've never seen that before? I guess I could use an adjustable wrench on it... but that sucks. I have some ratcheting wrenches and sockets I'd much, much rather use....
Anyone seen this before?
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A 12 point socket or ratcheting box wrench will turn it just as well as a square drive or adjustable. Most 1/2" k.o.s have the square stud.
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05-14-2009, 07:47 AM
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Yeah I have a 1/2 with a square. I just use a cresent wrench... no big deal.
~Matt
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05-14-2009, 08:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TOOL_5150
Yeah I have a 1/2 with a square. I just use a cresent wrench... no big deal.
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Yup, me too. I use a small Knipex PliersWrench.
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05-14-2009, 08:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenie
I worked for the money to buy the tools. If that isn't good enough for you, you can piss off.
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WOW, that is a great attitude for your 3rd post on a forum, make lots of friends. 
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05-14-2009, 04:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by knowshorts
I believe the one greenie is talking about, is this drawstud:
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Where's the hydraulic pump for those??!?!?!?!?
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05-14-2009, 05:15 PM
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you can sharpen the dull cutters by running the cup on a belt sander or a file. dont sharpen the die the cup is what gets sharpened
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05-14-2009, 09:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1900
Where's the hydraulic pump for those??!?!?!?!?
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There is a smaller shaft that gets screws into the end of the large draw shaft.
I have to say though, using this will put you in the lame corner for several minutes.  
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05-14-2009, 09:32 PM
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i love using these tools. anyone ever use the manual 4 inch punch?
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05-14-2009, 09:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by electricalperson
i love using these tools. anyone ever use the manual 4 inch punch?
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I've cut 3 or 4" knockouts with just the punch and a 10" Crescent wrench. The can has to be mounted very firmly or you'll spin the can with the amount of pressure you need to put on the wrench. I remember very clearly ripping one off the wall once. I can't remember even why I was turning it by hand. Probably obstructions.
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05-14-2009, 09:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
I've cut 3 or 4" knockouts with just the punch and a 10" Crescent wrench. The can has to be mounted very firmly or you'll spin the can with the amount of pressure you need to put on the wrench. I remember very clearly ripping one off the wall once. I can't remember even why I was turning it by hand. Probably obstructions.
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we have an old one at work i dont even know where to find them anymore. i think i seen it in the GB catalog
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05-14-2009, 10:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MDShunk
I've cut 3 or 4" knockouts with just the punch and a 10" Crescent wrench. The can has to be mounted very firmly or you'll spin the can with the amount of pressure you need to put on the wrench. I remember very clearly ripping one off the wall once. I can't remember even why I was turning it by hand. Probably obstructions.
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i would have liked to saw the look on your face. priceless
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05-14-2009, 11:05 PM
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I've been looking into getting a hydraulic set, but have'nt made my mind up yet though. Except for CT cabinets, I rarely need bigger than a 2'', so I'm looking into a 1/2"-2" set. Any suggestions?
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