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03-18-2008, 07:15 PM
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Cordless tools
-What do y'all use (and swear by) for cordless tools?
-Does anyone use Ingersoll Rand cordless stuff? If so, what do you think?
--thanx
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03-18-2008, 08:36 PM
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I'm a pretty dedicated Makita guy. I will wander occasionally, but I have a LOT of green tools.
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03-18-2008, 08:53 PM
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I'm partial to the Reds , Milwaukee and Hilti's ....... luv the 28V's.
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03-18-2008, 11:40 PM
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Ryobi Lithium 18v. Cheap, plenty of power, and the batteries actually last long! And there's about 50 different 18v tools that Ryobi sells and they can all be purchased tool-only.
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03-19-2008, 12:10 AM
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I like the yellow ones. Though I will say I have been eyeing out a makita drill.
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03-19-2008, 12:28 AM
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2 years ago I switched to the panasonic line I like them... was a yellow brand fan for a long time but the replacement batteries seemed to not last as long
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03-19-2008, 12:47 AM
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Sparks on Wheels
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Well, since I started this...
Right now I just have the $30 orange 18V. It's ok as a glorified screw gun, but not so great at drilling - it just doesn't have the nuts. But what do ya expect for $30???
My responsibilities are increasing so it's about time for me to get some real stuff. I just want to get into one good brand so I don't end up with 10 different chargers for 15 different tools...
At the shop we use a lot of pneumatic tools of all names, shapes and sizes and the only one that is any good is the beat up 10 year old IR impact that I use. Some other brands have literally crapped the bed after only one day of use! That's why I asked about the IR cordless - if they are as good as their air tools, then I'm a customer for life!
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03-19-2008, 12:50 AM
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Sparks on Wheels
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gatti
I'm partial to the Reds , Milwaukee and Hilti's ....... luv the 28V's.
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I saw a Hilti table at HD last week. I had never heard of or seen them before. Nice! Expensive... but nice.
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03-19-2008, 01:08 AM
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Since Milwaukee is going all Chinese, my next cordless will be Panasonic since Black & Decker sucks and DeWalt IS B&D.
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03-19-2008, 07:18 AM
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I've had nothing but bad luck with dewalt. I've got buddies who have dewalt tools...some have problems, most dont' My experience with them no so good.
I picked up the 18v sawzall and xrp hammer drill. I never had any problems with the saw. The drill's gears stripped out after about 6 months and I had the drill repaired to the tune of $70 and some change. The batteries started not holding much charge. 4 Months later same thing, same bill. Later on the drill just lost it's power and started grinding somewhere else. That's it, that's when I was done with it.
I've gone Ryobi ever since (it's been probably 3 years now) and I've got just about every 18v Ryobi tool known to man, even their garden sprayer! The biggest downside to them is their batteries, they just don't last long on the higher power stuff. 2 months ago my drill pooped out (after 2 1/2 - 3 years!) and took a battery with it. I went and picked up the 18v lithium kit with the drill, light, charger and 2 batteries and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It's like a whole different tool. Tons of power (I've cut out floor box receptacles in hard woods) and they hold a good charge. The lithium batteries make all the difference with these things.
Buying new with Ryobi is cheaper than repairing Dewalt.
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03-19-2008, 09:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedy Petey
I'm a pretty dedicated Makita guy. I will wander occasionally, but I have a LOT of green tools.
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One of us is color blind, they look blue to me.
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03-19-2008, 09:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gilbequick
I've had nothing but bad luck with dewalt. I've got buddies who have dewalt tools...some have problems, most dont' My experience with them no so good.
"I picked up the 18v sawzall and xrp hammer drill."
I've gone Ryobi ever since (it's been probably 3 years now) and I've got just about every 18v Ryobi tool known to man, even their garden sprayer! The biggest downside to them is their batteries, they just don't last long on the higher power stuff. 2 months ago my drill pooped out (after 2 1/2 - 3 years!) and took a battery with it. I went and picked up the 18v lithium kit with the drill, light, charger and 2 batteries and WOW WHAT A DIFFERENCE! It's like a whole different tool. Tons of power (I've cut out floor box receptacles in hard woods) and they hold a good charge. The lithium batteries make all the difference with these things.
Buying new with Ryobi is cheaper than repairing Dewalt.
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If it's a DeWalt or ANY brand beside Milwaukee It's NOT a Sawzall®.  BTW,Ryobi & Milwaukee share the same parent company.
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03-19-2008, 09:35 AM
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"A" inside wireman
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Of the cordless tools my employer has given me I have Bosch, DeWalt, Makita, and Milwaukee. The batteries (LION) in the Bosch and Makitas have a long life after charging but have issues when they are below 40F, you have to warm them or they don't work. The DeWalt stuff is ok, not always heavy duty enough. I take good care of the stuff but each piece has something broken, the trigger lock on the angle grinder doesn't work, the drill clutch is intermittent, the sawzall will clutch out on emt, the 1/4" impact is great. The Milwaukee 18v right angle drill, hatchet sawzall and sds hammer drill last a fair amount of time and have plenty of balls to get the tough jobs done. I have drilled a ton of anchor holes (1/4", 1/2") with the sds on one battery in some hard concrete. The 18v hammer drill/driver isn't as good on battery time as the heavier stuff, it dies out pretty fast. I just bought myself a Hilti cordless drill at the depot Monday, couldn't resist the reduced price ($120, drill, univ. charger and two batteries), so I'll let you know on this one.
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03-19-2008, 09:39 AM
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"A" inside wireman
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Quote:
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If it's a DeWalt or ANY brand beside Milwaukee It's NOT a Sawzall®.  BTW,Ryobi & Milwaukee share the same parent company.
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So did Dodge and Mercedes but there were big differences. I don't put a lot of bad faith in huge company mergers and takeovers. My company was taken over by a large company and the only thing that has changed is paperwork.
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03-19-2008, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
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One of us is color blind, they look blue to me.
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OK, at the risk of sounding interior decorator gay, let's call them aqua.
I agree, they really are more blue than green.
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03-19-2008, 09:51 AM
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"A" inside wireman
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OK, at the risk of sounding interior decorator gay, let's call them aqua.
I agree, they really are more blue than green.
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Just wondering if my eyes are going? No need for the queer eye guys.
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03-19-2008, 04:20 PM
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I have been a Dewalt guy but have been looking to possibly change. I have noticed that Ryobi has the newer Lithium kit with Drill, reciprocating saw, light, circular saw 2 batteries and charger is only $299. That is a fraction of the cost other similar kits, not even factoring in that the Ryobi kit comes with the Lithium Ion Batteries... One would think that for the price, there has to be something being sacrificed?? Gil seems to be happy with it though!?!?
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03-19-2008, 04:31 PM
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"A" inside wireman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicagoguy
I have been a Dewalt guy but have been looking to possibly change. I have noticed that Ryobi has the newer Lithium kit with Drill, reciprocating saw, light, circular saw 2 batteries and charger is only $299. That is a fraction of the cost other similar kits, not even factoring in that the Ryobi kit comes with the Lithium Ion Batteries... One would think that for the price, there has to be something being sacrificed?? Gil seems to be happy with it though!?!?
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Homeowner use, Ryobi is great, out in the construction real world they don't hold up. I have known many guys to go for the lower price and keep buying them over and over again as they break down. If you just want cheap and don't care about quality features go with Ridgid with the lifetime warranty, or Harbour Freight cordless. I would rather have a quality piece of equipment up front that isn't going to break down. If a tool has a lifetime warranty and breaks down, what do you use while it's in transit to and from repair? DeWalt cordless tools are the only tools on my truck that are broken (usable but broken). PS, keep in mind lithium ion don't run in cold weather.
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03-19-2008, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
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PS, keep in mind lithium ion don't run in cold weather.
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Well I guess that answers that, Chicago has been known to dip below 40 degrees  I do like my Dewalt's though and haven't had problems. I do like to take care of my tools, which may help and be reason why I haven't had problems
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03-19-2008, 04:57 PM
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Yellow tools
I have a large Dewalt kit, my old journeyman had Milwaukee...for cordless (I am referring to the 18 volt drills) I think that the Dewalt has a little bit more power. They both held up very well though I would definitely recommend either brand!!
Have any of you gotten the Bosch pocket driver for trim work? I have some friends that are starting to get them they are 10 Volt lithium Ion and I just bought one and have not had the opportunity to use it enough to form an opinion on it yet. Just curious.......
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