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Old 03-19-2017, 10:09 PM   #1
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Looks like a local up and coming product line for the residential market. I'm not into residential but this looks pretty slick for new stick construction MDUs etc. Plus the local midwest element is a plus. Any residential guys see any pros / cons to this stuff?


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Old 03-19-2017, 10:14 PM   #2
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Are they trying to advertise that you can pull into it from the same piece that mounts in the hole? How would you clamp it?
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I'd really like to see a better application video to address your questions, I just came across this and it looks pretty slick for a market I am not in.
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Lol I like how you say "I am not in" in that sense anything can look great right?
It seems slick though.
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It look pretty slick but I do not know what those thing will run on pricewise.

It kinda hard to say if that justify the cost for that purpose .,,,,
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I would not invest in this company if that is what you are asking....
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I don't get it.

They want me to install those guard things in every stud? What happens when there are multiple studs? What happens when I want to run multiple wires through the same holes without ending up at the same box?
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Don't buy the idea that box mounts etc are a significant source of arc faults.
Drilling the hole through the stud in exactly the right place, at a 90deg angle,
would be a pain.
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IDK.. Quit coming out with stupid products attempting to make up for crappy workmanship and proper testing procedures.

Train people to install stuff correctly... 90% of the issues are gone.

Train people how to use testing equipment, Megger the wires at rough and before trim, and the other 9.99% is gone.

The last %... Well... Materials fail! lol...

I don't see the value in it, nice novelty though.
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Don't buy the idea that box mounts etc are a significant source of arc faults.
Drilling the hole through the stud in exactly the right place, at a 90deg angle,
would be a pain.

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A companion jig would be required, no doubt.

It does solve a non-problem, though.

It is no solution for off-angle studs.

The mounting holes, themselves, will be expensive to install.

The multi-gang box makes absolutely no sense to me.
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A companion jig would be required, no doubt.

It does solve a non-problem, though.

It is no solution for off-angle studs.

The mounting holes, themselves, will be expensive to install.

The multi-gang box makes absolutely no sense to me.
Exactly... I don't see how this will save me time or money. How often does a drill bit wander a little...? Now every box in that room is at slightly different heights!
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I would not invest in this company if that is what you are asking....
You're just trying to figure out how to pound spikes through it .
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I drill holes in studs willy-nilly. You guys would laugh if you saw my roller coater wire from stud to stud. This would take me forever to get boxes the right height.

Hammer vertical from the floor, box on stud to top of hammer, hold in place, pull hammer, bang on box. Drill all the holes around it close enough the same height.

I do like the nail guard sleeves though.
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I drill holes in studs willy-nilly. You guys would laugh if you saw my roller coater wire from stud to stud. This would take me forever to get boxes the right height.

Hammer vertical from the floor, box on stud to top of hammer, hold in place, pull hammer, bang on box. Drill all the holes around it close enough the same height.

I do like the nail guard sleeves though.
I was taught boxes at hammer height (yeah, everyone was provided a company hammer) and drill at your hips/waist, which is typically above a receptacle and below a switch.... Unless your freakishly tall or short.... Not that there is anything wrong with that, you just do it at your knees or head...
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With the way the boxes slide into each other with no chase between boxes seems like one feed coming in and having to feed separate switch legs going out of a 2 or 3 gang box would be close to impossible.

The new boxes are let's say $3 each, the special clamp on the stud drill press for mounting holes is $400, j/s!
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With the way the boxes slide into each other with no chase between boxes seems like one feed coming in and having to feed separate switch legs going out of a 2 or 3 gang box would be close to impossible.

The new boxes are let's say $3 each, the special clamp on the stud drill press for mounting holes is $400, j/s!
You noticed that.
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You noticed that.
Sure did, it's pretty rare to have separate feeds for each individual device mounted in multigang boxes.
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It's cute, but it solves a problem I don't think exists. I think the gangability is cool.
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With the way the boxes slide into each other with no chase between boxes seems like one feed coming in and having to feed separate switch legs going out of a 2 or 3 gang box would be close to impossible.

The new boxes are let's say $3 each, the special clamp on the stud drill press for mounting holes is $400, j/s!
There is a 1/2" KO between each box.
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I want to buy one of the sleeves and make a youtube video of driving a screw through it. I have told my story of the homeowner that drilled a deck screw right through 1" EMT where it went through a stud. That wouldn't have happened with a nail plate.
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