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03-14-2008, 06:33 PM
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Klein's new screwdrivers...
Does anyone hate the new Klein screwdrivers as much as i do? Their older style seemed soo much better than the new rubbery grips...they don't stand up to oil as much as the old style did. And they feel "sticky" when your hands are sweaty...Klein seems to be going downhill as far as quality goes i now find myself picking through pliers at the suppliers because they are so poorly machined! The day I see a made in China sticker on a Klein tool will be the day I completely switch to Channellock!
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03-14-2008, 07:15 PM
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The day I see a made in China sticker on a Klein tool will be the day I completely switch to Channellock!  [/quote]
If you cut the comfort grips off some of kleins tools you will see made in china stamped on them
Channelocks still made in meadville pa by us citizens
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03-14-2008, 07:20 PM
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Hahaha no way...what tool did you see this on? I'm pretty sure that their 10 in 1 and some other drivers and knives are made in China. But I think their pliers are still made in the USA...
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03-14-2008, 07:37 PM
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For sure on their adjustable wrenches found it by accident, slipped with a knife and skinned the grip was stamped verry small china
ps hows work in toronto
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03-14-2008, 07:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Does anyone hate the new Klein screwdrivers as much as i do? Their older style seemed soo much better than the new rubbery grips...they don't stand up to oil as much as the old style did. And they feel "sticky" when your hands are sweaty...Klein seems to be going downhill as far as quality goes i now find myself picking through pliers at the suppliers because they are so poorly machined! The day I see a made in China sticker on a Klein tool will be the day I completely switch to Channellock! 
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I have a full set of Channellocks Code Blue and has never failed me. I only wish they can make decent screwdrivers.
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03-14-2008, 09:02 PM
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canadian guy
what model of lineman you guys are using?in channelock brand? 369 or 349?where can i get 349?Home Depot carry 369 up here, but cutters are no good.
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03-14-2008, 11:21 PM
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hahaa that's no good! I'm so tired of made in china stuff, even my conduit is made in china now  My friend had his two front teeth knocked out while he was threading together 1" rigid...it snapped in the middle and hit him in the face  and guess where it was made!
Work is good here, our company is pretty busy we do a lot of explosion proof and industrial control work, doing a chiller retrofit job downtown right now.
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03-15-2008, 10:00 AM
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is 349 channelocks 349 better than 369?im talking linemans.
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03-15-2008, 10:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Does anyone hate the new Klein screwdrivers as much as i do? Their older style seemed soo much better than the new rubbery grips...they don't stand up to oil as much as the old style did. And they feel "sticky" when your hands are sweaty...Klein seems to be going downhill as far as quality goes i now find myself picking through pliers at the suppliers because they are so poorly machined! The day I see a made in China sticker on a Klein tool will be the day I completely switch to Channellock! 
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Klein hechoed in China?, get used to it brother.
My good friend, who is still working in the government loop, says that our government's "Made In America" clause is out of the window. And he works for a beeg government contractor.
And my brother's company (an Atlanta, Georiga, USA firm), is now not only outsourcing to China, but outsourcing to Vietnam.
China's labot rate is about $.26per hour USD
Gold just traded at $1002 an ounce Friday on the New York exchange.
Stay tuned.
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03-15-2008, 11:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Hahaha no way...what tool did you see this on? I'm pretty sure that their 10 in 1 and some other drivers and knives are made in China. But I think their pliers are still made in the USA...
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Yeah, no where on my 10 in 1 is it stamped Made in USA, it just has a patent number on the grip unlike my other individual Klein drivers which are stamped Made in USA. My pliers are also marked USA as well.
Oh well, not really thrilled with my 10 in 1 anyways, sick of bits sticking to screws and coming out of the handle
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03-15-2008, 07:40 PM
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Haha...I've freaked on a guy for sticking that 10 in 1 thing into a live panel for exactly that reason imagine that bit across two phases  Only reason it's in my pouch is because sometimes my screwdrivers are a bit long to fit into places and its great when you're working on HVAC stuff to get those 5/16 and 1/4 cover screws off. My pouch is getting way too heavy to warrant sticking another 2 seperate drivers i barely ever use into it
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03-16-2008, 12:42 AM
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What made me go 'hmmmm...' is that I have a pair of BluePoint and a pair of Klein multi-tool stripper / crimpers - you know the ones. They look exactly alike and just like the multi-tools of every other company on the market.
http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com...75&h=224&page=
What I absolutely hate the most is that the nut / bolt joint always comes loose on that style of tool and you can never get it just right - it's either too tight to use or too loose which makes stripping / crimping a chore.
Any advice on good tools for crimping and stripping that don't have that bogus joint?
Thanx (1st post here)
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03-16-2008, 01:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Does anyone hate the new Klein screwdrivers as much as i do? Their older style seemed soo much better than the new rubbery grips...they don't stand up to oil as much as the old style did. And they feel "sticky" when your hands are sweaty...Klein seems to be going downhill as far as quality goes i now find myself picking through pliers at the suppliers because they are so poorly machined! The day I see a made in China sticker on a Klein tool will be the day I completely switch to Channellock! 
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I don't know, I bought the Channelock 369CRFT pliers they are totally worn out in about three months. My Kliens have been around for years.
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03-16-2008, 05:13 AM
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Klein crimpers for me...but CSA won't let ya use them to build new control panels. They need to be ratchet crimpers with a die that marks the sta-kon with a dot in the centre of the crimp. You may laugh...but the GB strippers (red/black handles) are amazing! only tool I will ever buy from GB. P.S...they are made in Taiwan NOT China haha
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03-16-2008, 06:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by satnut
what model of lineman you guys are using?in channelock brand? 369 or 349?where can i get 349?Home Depot carry 369 up here, but cutters are no good.
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Not sure if my linemans are 369 or 349's ...... I use Channelock Code Blues, my strippers are Klein. I'm very happy with the quality of Code Blues and wish they can make decent screwdrivers and strippers.
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03-17-2008, 12:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
You may laugh...but the GB strippers (red/black handles) are amazing! only tool I will ever buy from GB. P.S...they are made in Taiwan NOT China haha
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The 'Circuit Alert' ones?
I have a pair and they're a little big and unwieldy for my taste. The crimp part is just too tough to use - as is anything that's on the back side of the joint.
I got a pair of cheap-o Commercial Electric that I love! But I'm just waiting for the joint to come all unhinged and give me a reason to just spend the money on the Kleins.
Do you have a link to those crimpers you described with the dies?
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03-17-2008, 08:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnelectrician
Hahaha no way...what tool did you see this on? I'm pretty sure that their 10 in 1 and some other drivers and knives are made in China. But I think their pliers are still made in the USA...
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I see Japan on several of their knife blades but no China as of yet.
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03-17-2008, 10:12 AM
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Not sure if you guys can get Cabac tools in America, but I thoroughly recommend them.
http://www.cabac.com.au/catalog/1050.html
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03-17-2008, 04:38 PM
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simmo...any ideas where their pliers are made?
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03-17-2008, 05:17 PM
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Quote:
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simmo...any ideas where their pliers are made?
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I know they are sold here in Australia under the Cabac name brand, but was sure someone told me they were under the Crescent Tools group of companies, which is American I do believe.
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