mikeh32

i just saw this on home depot's site

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/...atalogId=10053



sure seams like a lot of tools

BirdLaw

That's very odd. A few months ago Klein took over HD while Greenlee and Ideal took over Lowes. The other day I noticed Knipex at Lowes, but now you show me them at HD too. So when will Knipex choose a side?!?!?!?!?!

BTW, I am VERY happy with Knipex. I just wonder if they are one of the many companies that will make a lower quality tool for Home Depot so they could sell it for less. I know that Dewalt and many other manufacturers do, I e-mailed Klein and they denied it, but I think they do.

TOOL_5150

its all online only for me. no stores that I know of on the west coast stock that stuff. I would just rather buy from acsupply then home dumpo.

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rlc3854

I was at Lowes today and saw the Knipex line there. The dikes were cheaper than at HD

Lone Crapshooter

On a related subject I just got back from the local HD and it looks to me that they are trying to get did of the Milwaukee tools.They still have some of the battery tools but I did not see any corded tools. It lools like they are going to Ryobi and Ridgid with some DeWalt and Bosch.
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captkirk

i cant pull it up by me.....strange

Frasbee

Haven't seen them at HD, yet.

Though I did see a whole line of Hilti the other day, I'll check back and see.

I'm worried that Knipex and Hilti will lower their quality eventually to sell at places like Lowe's and Home Depot.

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steelersman

HD has had Hilti tools for years now. I bought my cordless Hilti drill a long time ago at HD. As for the Knipex, I doubt they stock them at my local HD's around here. Probably only online.

480sparky

They're available....... Online only.

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Frasbee

I've never seen hilti like I see them now. A whole section dedicated to them?

Before that I'd only seen them in suppliers.

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Aiken Colon

HD bullies manufactures to sell at lower prices. In the case of Dewalt a few years ago, it forced Dewalt to change their manufacturing process. Dewalt should of been smart back then, and simply said no. They were, and still are, the big name in power tools. They ended losing some market share because of that whole mess. In the past year they seem to be getting it back.

HD prices are never the best. I don't know what their costs are, but I know what mine are. HD works at, at least a 20% margin from the prices I get. And when it comes to power tool companies I am no where near the lowest tier on cost.

Another funny story along the same line. In 2007 Walmart demanded a price from Pepsi. Pepsi said they couldn't do it. Walmart pulled Pepsi from all store shelves. This lasted exactly 24 hours before Pepsi buckeled.

JJ

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Fredman

Yup. It's a race to the bottom. There should be laws...

gilbequick

Saw the Knipex at Lowes today, in the electrical section. All of it was in the electrical section, channies, dikes, needles, etc....

On one hand I'm glad more stores are selling Knipex. On the other I don't like it much. I like being the only guy on the job with Knipex tools, if I see one laying around I know it's mine.

Frasbee

I second that.

I purchased the adjustable pliers because there was some confusion about who's channellocks where who's.

Actually, no there wasn't, my name was written clearly on both handles, but he swore I had his and never gave them back.

Everybody has blue handled channellocks.

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Why?

CharlieKelly

Because half this country are becoming socialists.

steelersman

If a country could ever have "true" communism, it would be ideal. There would be no homeless and everyone would be taken care of. There wouldn't be downtrodden people who are looked down upon. Everyone would have the same. There wouldn't be envy of your neighbor who has more than you. There wouldn't be armed robbery, and breaking and entering. It would be a much more peaceful civilization.

CharlieKelly

First, I'd suggest you do some research on the differences between communism and socialism.

Second,


When I walk thru my large garage trying to figure out which Harley to take out, or when I go out on my boat with my family, I don't feel happy because I have these toys, I feel happy because I earned them by working hard.

In your "utopia" no one would have any of these things anyway so what's the use?

When you get older and spend more time in the real world you will learn, I guarantee it.

amptech

You're kidding, right?

Frasbee

No, the point he's making is that in that ideal world people would not have wants, simply needs, needs of which would be fulfilled by all because they would naturally be inclined to do so.

Like a colony of ants or bees.

Sure, I'd agree, that would be wonderful so long as everyone stayed blissful and ignorant, but clearly that's not possible.

Hell, even the purely capitalistic alternative is just as bogus. Not everyone can be rich, but yet we see this massive push to get all the kids into college so they can work with their brains and essentially produce nothing and get paid a lot for it.

True to capitalism, we see what happens today when quality of work or products goes down but prices stay the same or go up. I'm sure everyone here would love it if they only ever had to buy one drill, one car, one of anything and never have to buy another one again because manufacturer's would always do their best to create the most quality product at a reasonable price.

Humanity will sooner go extinct before it ever agrees on something like politics.

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