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Old 07-21-2013, 05:07 PM   #1
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I have been stalking a few local lowes to cash in on the sell out of the ideal and greenlee hand tools- got some good deals
greenlee no dog level- 14.00
ideal conduit reamer tool- 12.00
ideal folding allen wrenches- 4.00
all good deals
today I went in and the new southwire tools were on the shelf, and they don't look good!
chanel locks seem to have a lot of slop in the joints and screwdrivers look like cheap china knock off's
Not to mention the horrible diarrhea brown/copper color
one positive is that the maxxis marksman and the no dog is on the shelves and easier to get- if you can get past the color
There are a lot of new southwire meters and testers- but I have no idea where they are made and the quality of them.
would like to hear what others have to say about the new tool line.
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Old 07-21-2013, 05:09 PM   #2
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It sounds like Southwire has gone the way of Westinghouse and put their good name on crappy consumer products, which makes their name synonymous with bottom of the line Chinese junk.

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Old 07-21-2013, 05:41 PM   #3
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I have been stalking a few local lowes to cash in on the sell out of the ideal and greenlee hand tools- got some good deals
greenlee no dog level- 14.00
ideal conduit reamer tool- 12.00
ideal folding allen wrenches- 4.00
all good deals
today I went in and the new southwire tools were on the shelf, and they don't look good!
chanel locks seem to have a lot of slop in the joints and screwdrivers look like cheap china knock off's
Not to mention the horrible diarrhea brown/copper color
one positive is that the maxxis marksman and the no dog is on the shelves and easier to get- if you can get past the color
There are a lot of new southwire meters and testers- but I have no idea where they are made and the quality of them.
would like to hear what others have to say about the new tool line.
Thanks
if its lowes changing a line, it will definetly be cheaper stuff. think they are taking lessons from wally world
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So far, the only tool I've seen is a 9-in-1 screwdriver. No pliers that I could try.

As for the meters, I've seen them all before under different brand names. They are just putting their name on any meter they find, and charging more money for it. There was actually a Southwire tester in the store, that was the EXACT same as a Amprobe tester that Lowe's has discounted out. The "normal" Amprobe price was $20 (not the discounted price for clearing them out), and the Southwire price was $30. Same product. Is the Southwire name on you product really worth 50% more??
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Old 07-21-2013, 06:33 PM   #5
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It looks like rebranded tools from Ideal. Ideal has gone downhill in the last few years. They used to make an excellent solenoid tester (the yellow vol-con and vol-con lite) the Chinese crap they put ou now just plain sucks and its overpriced.
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It looks like rebranded tools from Ideal. Ideal has gone downhill in the last few years. They used to make an excellent solenoid tester (the yellow vol-con and vol-con lite) the Chinese crap they put ou now just plain sucks and its overpriced.
Ideal still makes a USA version of their solenoid tester. You just won't find it in any big box store. But, if I'm spending that much for a solenoid, I would go with Knopp over Ideal. However, I have stopped with solenoid testers, and only use CAT IV ones now.
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Thanks for reminding me, lost my Knopp, had to order another.
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I just saw the new Southwire side cutters at Lowes . What a load of bullshat! $35 for chicom pliers. No thanks.
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Thanks for reminding me, lost my Knopp, had to order another.
Didnt know anyone still used solenoid testers?

Havent used mine since i stopped doing new resi 12 yrs ago
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Didnt know anyone still used solenoid testers?

Havent used mine since i stopped doing new resi 12 yrs ago
Wow.
My wiggy is my go to before working on circuits or a 'something not working' call
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Wow.
My wiggy is my go to before working on circuits or a 'something not working' call
A T5 is so much nicer tho
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Didnt know anyone still used solenoid testers?

Havent used mine since i stopped doing new resi 12 yrs ago
Oh goddness I have a Knopp. I use it all the time when I feel like my fluke is lying.
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I use my Vol-Con Lite most of the time. I grab the Fluke if I need exact values but for checking on and off I like a low impedance solenoid tester.
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Solenoid testers look like cheap plastic ****.

Fluke t+ pro, quality instrument and heavy duty leads.
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Will a t5 trip a gfci?
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A Wiggy is my choice for yes-no testing. I also carry a Fluke 83 or 87 for accurate readings, ohmmeter, and instrumentation and a Fluke glow stick for a preliminary check.
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A Wiggy is my choice for yes-no testing. I also carry a Fluke 83 or 87 for accurate readings, ohmmeter, and instrumentation and a Fluke glow stick for a preliminary check.
Same here. My wiggy is my most lost tool. It gets lost every other week. As of right now I have no clue where I put it....
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A Wiggy is my choice for yes-no testing. I also carry a Fluke 83 or 87 for accurate readings, ohmmeter, and instrumentation and a Fluke glow stick for a preliminary check.
That sounds a lot like my arsenal but I use a Santronics NC tester
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I like Santronics also. I have one in my "spare" tool set.
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The day I buy a Southwire tool is the day I buy a Fluke light fixture.

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