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Old 11-18-2009, 05:13 AM   #21
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I doubt he has NMC...I've never even seen it before.
Never seen it either, but some of my boss' friends refer to UF as NMC. Confused the hell out of me the first time I heard it holding a roll of UF in my hands.
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Old 11-18-2009, 08:54 AM   #22
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its grey flat cable it think it's type uf. I don't do residential stuff very often so i can't recognize some stuff from 30ft and i haven't crawled over the bushes to read the jacket yet.

I'm not normally easy to irritate, but the take pride in your work comment rubbed the wrong way.

And yes i don't have any problem running conduit, and replacing wire i just didn't want to make more work then i needed to.

Maybe it's the way we talk here in cleveland but the only guy who directly tried to answer my question was a fellow clevelander
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:14 AM   #23
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its grey flat cable it think it's type uf. I don't do residential stuff very often so i can't recognize some stuff from 30ft and i haven't crawled over the bushes to read the jacket yet.

I'm not normally easy to irritate, but the take pride in your work comment rubbed the wrong way.

And yes i don't have any problem running conduit, and replacing wire i just didn't want to make more work then i needed to.

Maybe it's the way we talk here in cleveland but the only guy who directly tried to answer my question was a fellow clevelander
You need to lighten up. My "pride" comment was stated because you were looking for a way to sleeve nm cable. I then learned you edited your original post to say nmc and now I learn it might be uf. You're getting bent out of shape and you still don't know what kind of cable you have.

If this is your house, and it is uf, and you can't get within 30 feet of it, or you need to climb bushes to get to it, does it really need to be protected from physical damage?
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Old 11-18-2009, 09:56 AM   #24
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You need to lighten up. My "pride" comment was stated because you were looking for a way to sleeve nm cable. I then learned you edited your original post to say nmc and now I learn it might be uf. You're getting bent out of shape and you still don't know what kind of cable you have.

If this is your house, and it is uf, and you can't get within 30 feet of it, or you need to climb bushes to get to it, does it really need to be protected from physical damage?
Possibly not, probably how it passed inspection. But still I don't like it and I think it's ugly so I was hoping somebody might make something like wiremold does for indoors that i can use outdoors. Who knows maybe wiremold does make something all plastic that i can use i'll go google it now.
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called the local wire mold distributor no luck. i guess what i'm going to do is rout a slot in the back of some wood molding and cover it with that.
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Regarding your NMC cable, according to 334.10 , B (1) it is allowed in dry, moist, damp or corrosive locations. The other fellow who coated 334.12 B did not notice that NMC was not one of the wires listed. My suggestions are: attach two 1x2 pieces of wood along side of the cable, spread them to match a 1x4" piece of Hemp Fir, rough cut on one side for looks. Then screw the 1x4" to the two 1x2" so you can remove them easily if needed. Then paint them to match the house. The other way is to use a table saw or band saw and split a PVC conduit, you can wrap the cable with it, use a few stainless hose clamps, strap all this to the house with two hole straps, then paint the pvc to match the house. You may want to use sch 80 to help prevent the tendency of sch 40 to bend. Leave the bottom open to allow any water to drain out.
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Regarding your NMC cable, according to 334.10 , B (1) it is allowed in dry, moist, damp or corrosive locations. The other fellow who coated 334.12 B did not notice that NMC was not one of the wires listed. My suggestions are: attach two 1x2 pieces of wood along side of the cable, spread them to match a 1x4" piece of Hemp Fir, rough cut on one side for looks. Then screw the 1x4" to the two 1x2" so you can remove them easily if needed. Then paint them to match the house. The other way is to use a table saw or band saw and split a PVC conduit, you can wrap the cable with it, use a few stainless hose clamps, strap all this to the house with two hole straps, then paint the pvc to match the house. You may want to use sch 80 to help prevent the tendency of sch 40 to bend. Leave the bottom open to allow any water to drain out.
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Thanks Dave. the post it's mounted on is treated 4x4 supporting the deck roof. I think i'm going to do exactly what you suggest except i'm going to use pressure treated so that it matches. I do woodworking on the side... it's not exactly an oak desk but i should be able to handle it :P I'm thinking i will run it high enough that it's protected by the eve's of the deck and leave both top and bottom open

also... the only thing i added when i edited was the second paragraph about it possibly type TU. I knew the whole time it was the moisture rated stuff i just didn't know what to call it.
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I have seen something like that on power poles. It looks like they use it to protect a ground wire, or possibly a phone drop to underground. Extends from ground level up the pole several feet. Don't know what it is called or who handles it.
Ive got that before from my supply house

Its from arlington, called U-GUARD two different sizes i believe
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Carlon makes a tounge and groove pvc pipe that for the life of me i cannot find on carlons site anyway look it up here on electricain talk we have dissucsed this product before. Its a neet product and i think it will suit you just fine.
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It's called "Split Duct" but I have not seen it smaller than 2". It sure comes in handy when you damage a telephone duct or feeder conduit, if you have not damaged the cables.
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