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Old 12-06-2011, 07:10 PM   #1
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Without starting out with expensive tools, what brands/kinds of basic tools would do a good job with Cat5 & Cat6 cables. Such as a RJ45 crimp tool, a punch down tool, and a LAN checker and toner?

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Old 12-06-2011, 09:21 PM   #2
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Crimpers, Greenlee or Ideal.
Punch down, Harris
LAN checker, Fluke
Toner, Tempo

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Crimpers, Greenlee or Ideal.
Punch down, Harris
LAN checker, Fluke
Toner, Tempo
I second this. Go on Ebay and find yourself a Harris punchdown. Industry standard. I've used all sorts of other ones and none compare.

I'd like to add a small flathead screwdriver for working with the faceplates and jacks.

Also... SNIPS and a knife. Best tools I own. Those Klein sets with the cable knife and snips in a leather belt-pouch are so dang handy. I use the knife part to help with stubborn ceiling tiles that need an little encouragement to seat back down
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:00 PM   #4
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Snips- http://www.amazon.com/Klein-2100-7-E...226434&sr=8-11

Punch tool- http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-Networks...3226486&sr=1-1

LAN Tester- http://www.amazon.com/Multimedia-Voi...3226618&sr=1-1


Tone and Probe- http://www.amazon.com/Fluke-PRO3000-...3226564&sr=1-1

These tools have done well for me... and that has been about 8 years of use so far. Good advice to get a small flat tip screwdriver as well, you will use it alot to open data jacks and pull pairs off of phone blocks and patch panels. I suggest the mini Wiha variation.
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tone and probe.... Progressive

butsett, harris/fluke. Fluke owns harris now

punchdown-ideal, Paladin(best blades and punchdown), or harris

scissors-klein is the best for this

crimper-ideal rachetmaster

You should also have a basic wiremapper. The ideal one at HD is great, but obviously fluke is better

All I do is data/voice so feel free to ask
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Old 12-06-2011, 10:35 PM   #6
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What's the difference between a 814, 914, & 914S punch down tool?
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the 914s is rubberized

the 900 series also has the plungers too
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What do you guys use your scissors for? I have a pair but I only use them for cutting kevlar and label tape. Everything else I do with dykes.

For testers - they sell cheap mod-taps or wiremap testers over here for like $5.00NZD on our version of Ebay which theres nothing wrong with as your just checking your wiremap is correct.

I had an extech tone source that wasnt really that usefully unless I stripped back the 2 pairs and twisted them into 2 conductors to tone out individual cables from a loom. I now have a Fluke intellitone which I am really happy with and it also has a pair test function. We certify all our installs with a Fluke DTX 1800 scanner so the wiremap is redundant for me in most cases unless I'm trouble shooting someone elses work.

I have a pair of http://www.acetoolonline.com/Klein-D...kle-d257-4.htm in my hand holding them with my pinky and the ball in my thumb when I'm doing a panel of CAT6A with plastic between each conductor as it leaves both hands free but still can snip it out, they told us when we did the cert for the product that it was fine to leave in and punch down with the conductor into the jack but I do not agree with them on that and we were having problems with no continuity on the pin that the plastic was punched down onto.

I have used a Fluke punchdown tool a couple of times and they are very nice, went to order one and they wanted $220NZD for it so for now I can make the cheap generic ones work for me, just throw away the 110 that comes with them. I have a genuine Krone tool and a "Klone", I really cant tell the difference to tell you the truth and couldnt if I was blindfolded aside from the "Klone" is covered in the grease from direct buried cables.

They also make "Jack-rapid" tools for most products but I have never really warmed up to them, it punches down all 4 pairs at the same time.

I like to wear a http://www.acetoolonline.com/Custom-...p/clc-140m.htm on my left hand and I hold the jack on my third knuckle bone for punching down.

I also was in a store once and they had "garden hose corner guides" on sale for $1.99, before I do a cable run I cable tie them onto the corners of the basket tray and can pull around 4 corners by myself with the rollers, these are invaluable since every run is a home run.
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When you do this **** all the time, you need a good punchdown. the cheap ones are cheap for a reason. the blades suck on them, and the spring will break

Harris/fluke telco/data stuff is the same now too


As for the scissors. We use them for everything!!! cutting cable, stripping cable, cutting cable ties, cutting packages, cutting velcro, cutting more wire, and a lot more that i cant think of now.

The two tools i use most are my scissors, and a punch down.


as for that rapid-jack thing... waste of money, unless you do only one jack type. A lot of times, you will switch the brands from job to job.


this is the scissors too

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i use this punch down tool http://www.techtoolsupply.com/Produc...ode=PAL%2D3586

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When you do this **** all the time, you need a good punchdown. the cheap ones are cheap for a reason. the blades suck on them, and the spring will break

Harris/fluke telco/data stuff is the same now too


As for the scissors. We use them for everything!!! cutting cable, stripping cable, cutting cable ties, cutting packages, cutting velcro, cutting more wire, and a lot more that i cant think of now.

The two tools i use most are my scissors, and a punch down.


as for that rapid-jack thing... waste of money, unless you do only one jack type. A lot of times, you will switch the brands from job to job.


this is the scissors too
Yeah those punchdowns are a disposable item really at $12NZD, keep 1 in my pouch and spare 2 in my vehicle, I chuck the blades away and use other ones the company supplies.

Interesting about the scissors, I use these if I need to strip wires like for clocks or nurse call systems and they cut like a hot knife through butter http://www.service.kleintools.com/To.../Product/11057 But I think the feature I use most would be the screw shears.
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Needed to take a pic for another thread so I grabbed this stuff also. Crappy webcam pics because I broke my iphone

These are the basic low voltage tools I keep with me and have gotten me through what needed to be done.





Random parts bin




RG6 stripper





Klein 16 - 26 stripper
Ideal punchdown
D Sub crimper
small cutter
Klein F-type and bnc compression tool
Ideal RJ-45/11 crimper
Small drivers
D sub insertion/removal tool
Ideal tone generator and amplifier probe
Ideal VDV tester
Ideal Securitest (CAT5/6, CCTV)
Ideal Stripmaster RG6 tool

Have some others in the van somewhere too, you'll find yourself picking things up here and there.
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this is over 2 years, and a lot has been upgraded....

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Saves the hands!


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This is the contents of my toolbelt and I do pretty much just new construction commercial and some industrial voice and data.
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I use Klein for my main tools (screwdrivers, strippers, cutters etc), Ideal modular plug crimper, Harris/Fluke for all the specialty stuff. Can't beat their punch tools and butt sets.
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These are my handtools that dont live on my pouch.
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This is my main set of tools...


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do you like that whole saw?

I tried the shark one, and loved it!
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Yes!

I think he likes the whole saw, not just part of it!

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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