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Old 01-10-2017, 05:48 PM   #21
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just saw a local chem plant do a 180 on maintenance when the maintenance manager position changed hands, they all get pressure from corporate but some are pushovers and will be the scapegoat when something bad happens.
When I was working on a facility that had life safety issues going ignored often they would be caught on random state inspections.
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Old 01-12-2017, 02:56 PM   #22
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In my humble opinion two things totally waste money as personally seen by me on over 10 large industrial jobs:
1) Rework arising from bad workmanship and lack of pride. The workers who generated the rework should be the ones to rework it.
2) Engineered drawing discrepencies. Engineers cut and paste drawings and send them to site where nobody has the time to study the drawings to find something like 2C#10 teck to operate a 3-phase pump and the distance is about 700M from the E-House. And there are 6 feeds that have to be replaced.
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Biggest waste of of money today is the "safety" industry that really is nothing but liability shifting. They have created procedures for doing every simple task, that if followed to the letter makes it impossible to do your job in a timely, efficient manner.
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Very very true.
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Capricious safety inspectors. I'll save you three paragraphs of comparing and contrasting the letter of the law versus the spirit except to say that we spend a lot of time "fixing" things that have either been working safely and flawlessly for years, or "fixing" something that a previous inspector approved. Related to Mitch65's post, but our inspectors are federal.

Design and engineering by people who don't understand the problem they have been tasked to fix, or seem determined to engineer down to cost. It works for a while.....
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To add a few more....

Ordering a brand new 480 volt MCC, exactly the same as one that was replaced on a sister site 3 years ago but not making any of the changes that were found during that install during the Shop Drawing/Specification stage and getting the same mistakes.. New MCC needs new doors and all the VFD Vector cards replaced to 120 volt from the 24 volt...

Spending a year planning a fairly easy job and having nothing to show for it but a duotang with some tabs, a cover sheet and one photocopied drawing..

Paying a flat rate for power on a site that hasn't had any need for it since 1979 (ie - nothing on that site)..
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just saw a local chem plant do a 180 on maintenance when the maintenance manager position changed hands, they all get pressure from corporate but some are pushovers and will be the scapegoat when something bad happens.
I second this. I saw a maintenance department change hands and really start getting in line. If it weren't for the difficult position I was in, I would have loved to work under that man once my position changed from IT department to Maintenance department. Even with me being in IT he made time for 30 minute (almost daily) meetings to coach me on TPM, Six Sigma, Lean Manufacturing, PM, PDM, etc. I probably read 3000 pages or more and went and discussed it with him.

A good leader can really make a difference if once the bad apples are weeded out and the good vibes start trickling down.
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To add a few more....

Ordering a brand new 480 volt MCC, exactly the same as one that was replaced on a sister site 3 years ago but not making any of the changes that were found during that install during the Shop Drawing/Specification stage and getting the same mistakes.. New MCC needs new doors and all the VFD Vector cards replaced to 120 volt from the 24 volt...

Spending a year planning a fairly easy job and having nothing to show for it but a duotang with some tabs, a cover sheet and one photocopied drawing..

Paying a flat rate for power on a site that hasn't had any need for it since 1979 (ie - nothing on that site)..
Figures...I have worked on phase 3 of a site near Conklin, AB and they have not implemented changes and errors from phase 1 (let alone Phase 2). And they wonder WTF is costing so much? Ask document control and engineers who cannot seem to get the time to pass on valuable information.
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I second this. I saw a maintenance department change hands and really start getting in line. If it weren't for the difficult position I was in, I would have loved to work under that man once my position changed from IT department to Maintenance department. Even with me being in IT he made time for 30 minute (almost daily) meetings to coach me on TPM, Six Sigma, Lean Manufacturing, PM, PDM, etc. I probably read 3000 pages or more and went and discussed it with him.

A good leader can really make a difference if once the bad apples are weeded out and the good vibes start trickling down.
this is the crux of it though as it can be an almost impossible task.
our company employed a process called 5s
while the idea was good its a disaster when you have the wrong people making decisions on what to keep and what to discard.
quite often they will discard an expensive component that is hard to replace only because they are too lazy to ask anyone about it.
then its common for the turds to blame others for their f**$ups
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