knowshorts

It's a fine line if you don't word it properly. Typically this happens in residential construction. I guarantee what I can. Basically, internal wiring. My wiring will not cause an el cheopo dimmer or can light to fail.

Shado

No...thats material warranties. If something goes wrong do to your labor installation...then that would be covered only....

Hmmm....how do you figure fixing something from material they bought would be covered under labor warranty? Just curious...

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lectro88

I've seen this more and more. My problem with it is a damn homeowner is not an electrician. Has no idea what to use or how much or what is good or junk. I tend to use commercial material. They have no idea. I will not install a .59 cent receptacle for anything. This is more of what makes my blood boil about our trade. Cheap, Cheap, Cheap. You said com. garage. metal boxes, emt, straps and fittings, give him a list and send em to homeless depot or low life supply. Good luck gettn what you wrote cause the dip$#8T at homeless works in another department and knows nothing about electrical either like the HO. Try this with HVAC. good luck getting freon HO.

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NolaTigaBait

I will. What's the big deal on residential?

MDShunk

He probably doesn't want the warranty responsibility on a 59 cent receptacle, but if it's customer supplied, there's no warranty anyhow.

I like to remain flexible and install whatever material the budget allows for. Not everyone can drive a Cadillac.

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Lighting Retro

Back when I ran an irrigation company in California I had a customer who wanted to do this. I show up and they don't have the fittings you need, they bought the cheapest Lawn Genie sprinklers they could find, 2", that would not even pop up above the grass, etc. I'm sure the guy was very pleased with himself thinking he could run a main water line with Class 200 pipe thinwall instead of sch 40.

At that point, I decided I would never do it again. Just not worth digging through 25 Home depot bags to see if all the right stuff was there, and having to be held up if it wasn't. Like others have said, if you do, just have a set of clear rules in place so you don't get burned. I'd explain in real plain english why this rarely works, and what they will be charged extra when they don't do their end properly.

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lectro88

I install Lev CR15 or CR20 $1.15ea. Well tamperproof now. Marc hit it, install it and call me when you need somehing else. Had several service calls to replace cheap receptacles installed by others. What I call hot spot devices. Sure I got paid to do it, its work. I just don't want to be the guy that installed the problem. I guess part of it is, I'm a commercial and industrial electrician. And I'm trying to save the world.

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leland

I agree with the above posts. very risky.
How ever,to combat this:
Meet (on the clock),provide a stock list (on the clock),Then add your material mark up to your labor cost.
These folks don't understand: with your mark up; you are still providing a quality product cheaper than they can purchase it.
Oh well, play the game ,adjust as needed and don't work for free.
I like to send them back to the store for what 'we' need and charge them while I sit in their drive way.

Better still,Just show up to work. If the crap aint there.... Move along.
"I'll be back when you get it". And charge for travel.
1 hour is 1 hour.

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heel600

I never had a homeowner dig a proper trench.

I tell them is needs to be 24" deep (when it realy needs to be 18") and I'm lucky if it's over 12". Not close to straight either.

Tell them once you get there, you're there to work. If anything they did needs correction, they're paying you for it.

steelersman

I disagree. I'd rather rent a trencher at HD for $90 or get an illegal immigrant to do it for cheap. It's money well spent.

oldman

i vote we change your username from 'steelersman' to 'button_pushing_man'

steelersman

I'll take that. I can admit I have a tendency to do that.

william1978

Or 'Meatspin'

InPhase277

If the customer supplies material by means of me picking it up on their account, that's great. But I hate to install the crap they already have.

sparkyy1

Just make it clear that 1) you only install UL listed items and 2) you cannot warranty anything that you do not purchase through your supplier.

steelersman

I believe you're beating a very old drum by stating the obvious.

excellencee

My favorite is the main lug panel that they removed from the house down the street as the demo crew was tearing it down that they now want installed as part of the service change that they need on their house. I've had this happen more than one time. Somehow this rusty piece of crap is worth about $500 off their bill. I tell them that I install new panels that I provide or get someone else.

480sparky

This may be a silly question, but what are you going to do when you get sued for installing customer-supplied equipment and they get shocked, a kid gets electrocuted, or their house burns down?

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MDShunk

That simply doesn't happen.

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Peter D

Yeah. Most of the talk about fire and shocks are scare tactics. It sells work I suppose but the reality is that most wiring, even very poorly installed, is safe. There, I said it.