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That simply doesn't happen.
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So........ installing customer-supplied stuff is always perfectly safe? 
Or........ you won't install customer-supplied stuff?
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480...what's the difference between new material pruchased by customer and the new material purchased by you?
1000' of Romex from my supply house is the exact same as HD or Lowes sales....as are boxes, staples, devices, plates, etc....
just not following your thoughts here...please enlighten me....
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09-14-2009, 08:57 AM
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480...what's the difference between new material pruchased by customer and the new material purchased by you? ....
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When you supply the material, it's obvious that you're liable. If the customer supplies something, then who get fingered?
The HO is obviously going to blame you, and you're thinking it's the stuff they supplied. It gets ugly and expensive after that point.
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09-14-2009, 01:37 PM
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When you supply the material, it's obvious that you're liable. If the customer supplies something, then who get fingered?
The HO is obviously going to blame you, and you're thinking it's the stuff they supplied. It gets ugly and expensive after that point.
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Hmmm....interesting, so in effect, we are liable not matter who purchased the material then?
Can I assume you accidently stepped into this poo pile sometime in the past?
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09-14-2009, 02:08 PM
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Hmmm....interesting, so in effect, we are liable not matter who purchased the material then?
Can I assume you accidently stepped into this poo pile sometime in the past?
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You assume incorrectly. And what I'm saying is that we will be held liable no matter who supplies the stuff. HOs simply will not accept the fact they buy crap.
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09-14-2009, 05:57 PM
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Try going into a steak house and bringing your own meat 
Just tell the chef to cook it to medium 
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Exactly!
Try telling the same thing to a doctor or lawyer.
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09-14-2009, 07:42 PM
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It either says UL on it or it doesn't. Who am I to judge? These lawsuits you talk about simply don't happen. I defy you to find even one such lawsuit where there was a dispute about whether the material was customer supplied or electrician supplied. It's not like an electrician can pretend like he supplies all the fixtures on a resi job. Seriously, though, you present a good argument if I was a customer. Since I'm an EC, I just don't buy it. I'm usually happy to do a job with customer supplied material if it means not getting the job at all. A small slice of the pie is often better than no pie at all. If you've got better things to do, then you have the luxury of being picky. I have a few people I have to keep busy, so I really don't get to be so picky.
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09-15-2009, 09:00 AM
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customer supplied material.....maybe yes, maybe no
If we are busy with other projects where we are supplying material, then one of these jobs doesn't seem so lucrative. I think differently when times are slow though. I don't worry too much about the liability issue other than to disclaim responsibility for anything we don't supply.
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09-15-2009, 03:06 PM
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If we are busy with other projects where we are supplying material, then one of these jobs doesn't seem so lucrative. I think differently when times are slow though. I don't worry too much about the liability issue other than to disclaim responsibility for anything we don't supply.
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But if you figure the price as usual with mark up and back out cost of materials...wouldn't that be just as lucrative?  Just curious...
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09-15-2009, 07:32 PM
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Wow, they must have been really kicking themselves after that! Did they give you any grief?
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Shame on you for gouging
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09-15-2009, 11:39 PM
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It either says UL on it or it doesn't. Who am I to judge? These lawsuits you talk about simply don't happen. I defy you to find even one such lawsuit where there was a dispute about whether the material was customer supplied or electrician supplied............
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I don't think I could live ling enough to research that.
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09-16-2009, 12:18 AM
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We let customers buy the material but either we go with them and include that time on the estimate or order the materials from our supplier and he will pay the invoice, we just try not to lose any customer, and if they feel they are saving that way, let them feel it.
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09-16-2009, 05:12 AM
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This makes the most sense and I would do the same thing.
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09-16-2009, 05:14 AM
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I don't think I could live ling enough to research that.
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Come on man. Think outside the box. 
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09-16-2009, 11:38 AM
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OK.
I don't think anyone could live long enough to research that.
Happy now?
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09-16-2009, 11:42 AM
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The glass is half full, not half empty.
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09-16-2009, 11:53 AM
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The glass is half full, not half empty.
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No.... the glass is twice the size it needs to be.
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09-16-2009, 12:29 PM
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There's thinking with your dipstick Jimmy!
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You can get all the material you need at your local dollar store.. As well as oil for your $35,000 service truck.
Saving money is just too expensive in the long run..
And I can't afford free offers..
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09-16-2009, 03:37 PM
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You can get all the material you need at your local dollar store.. As well as oil for your $35,000 service truck.
Saving money is just too expensive in the long run..
And I can't afford free offers..
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What idiot buys a $35,000 service truck 
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