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Old 04-27-2012, 10:34 PM   #41
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Btw before you laugh try learning how to do a load calculation.

The only guy laughing will be the one that beats your price and gets the job because you want to put a 400 amp service on a 150 amp house AND use 12 wire.
Hey i send you a copy of my load calculation if you want. . . you don't even know what all tha loads are. . 2 split a/c units (15kw -8kw aeach one0. . .hot tub. . ., 2 water heaters. . etc. There's no need in being rude here, we are all in the same field right. .

Oh my bad. . . i didn't see you were from NJ.

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Old 04-27-2012, 10:37 PM   #42
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No way. Your calculations are way off.
What makes you think so? . . .
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Thats allot of crap in a 3000 sqft home.
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At first I thought you were full of crap on your service calc, but from the information you gave, and what I could dig up on the, mine came to 235A. That seems absolutely insane for a 3000 sq ft house. Are they really using electric heating elements in the heat pumps? Why the 2 water heaters? Is there an instant for the upstairs and an instant for the downstairs or something? Just seems crazy.
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What makes you think so? . . .
Because my house is 4000 sq ft and I have a 200amp service which is suffice. Although I don't have a heat pumps. I do have a pool which non-coincedental load similar scenario.
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What makes you think so? . . .
My load calculation total, taking almost everything you said into consideration I have a total of 47,500 va. Even at 100% without any deductions I have a 197amps.

Re: minimizing the service to 200amps will reduce your bid by at least $5000. Less then your competition.
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Always bid minimum and then upsell. 200 amp service, #14 wire, generic hi hats and fixtures.
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At first I thought you were full of crap on your service calc, but from the information you gave, and what I could dig up on the, mine came to 235A. That seems absolutely insane for a 3000 sq ft house. Are they really using electric heating elements in the heat pumps? Why the 2 water heaters? Is there an instant for the upstairs and an instant for the downstairs or something? Just seems crazy.
That's what i thought when i put all this together, but that's what this guy is goona put in this place. yeah 2 split unit. with 2 heat pumps. evrything electric. he wants one water heatre for upstairs ( he said a fourty gallon) and one downstairs ( 80 gallons). here's everything:
-2,500 sq ft heated + 500 sq ft garage with work benches
-4 small appliance circuits
-laundry circuit.
-range: 11.5 kw
-Dryer 5,700 w
-2 a/c split units. unit a-15 kw heat pump
unit b- 8 kw heat pump
-2 water heaters 4,500 w each
-dishwasher 1,500 w
-garage door opener 400 w
-garbage disposer 450w
-whirpool 1,200w
-trash compactor 1,100w
-freezer 800w
- 50amp Hot Tub

i know this is a lot. . just please, you all don,t ask me why this. . . why that. . . this is exactly what the guy paying for this house wants.

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