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Old 01-07-2016, 07:15 PM   #1
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I recently had to let one of my electricians go and have been actively searching for a replacement. I have ad on indeed and an ad on Craigslist. Say what you want about Craigslist but by sheer luck I found an awesome employee there. Mostly all unqualified applicants though. I've asked local electrical contractor buddies and asked around supply houses but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is a journeyman with experience in service who can sell and complete the job. I found one and he is working awesome but am really struggling finding someone who is what we think even trainable. Where are you guys finding help? What has worked for you.
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Old 01-07-2016, 09:20 PM   #2
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...the pay offered has a lot to do with finding experienced/quality journeyman
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I call the union hall. If they don't work out, I call again.
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I call the union hall. If they don't work out, I call again.
Some contractors have a call in for service guys for quite a while and then nothing again for years.
I would have to conclude that they found what they were looking for.
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Drop by a local SkillsUSA competition to see who's volunteering, and maybe keep an eye out for any future all-stars worth grooming.
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I'm not in a hiring or recruiting position, but I can give you some insight as the guy you're looking for.

The go-getters aren't typically sitting at home, the guy your looking for is probably working for your competition. You need to find out what your competitors are paying and add 10% or more. Post the wage in your ad. This is going to cause problems with your current employees if the wage is higher than what your currently paying them. Good companies (in my opinion) have tiered pay scales (apprentice 1-4, un-licensed jw, jw etc). But this will get guys that are working off the fence to come over and kick the tires, allowing you to sell yourself to the right applicant.
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I call the hall and they never have anyone to send
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Finding an outstanding employee usually takes time -- say 25 years.

Talk to your wife.
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Anyone who is good and knows what they are worth. You wont attract us with a normal wage.

I would recommend posting the wage in with your job posting. Ill still probably ask for more...
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I recently had to let one of my electricians go and have been actively searching for a replacement. I have ad on indeed and an ad on Craigslist. Say what you want about Craigslist but by sheer luck I found an awesome employee there. Mostly all unqualified applicants though. I've asked local electrical contractor buddies and asked around supply houses but can't seem to find what I'm looking for. What I'm looking for is a journeyman with experience in service who can sell and complete the job. I found one and he is working awesome but am really struggling finding someone who is what we think even trainable. Where are you guys finding help? What has worked for you.
In my previous occupation I went through 3 employees one year (that was a lot for me) because they were just worthless.

1st guy wouldn't do some very simple things because he deemed them "unnecessary". 2nd guy just couldn't show up on time no matter what. The 3rd guy was just a whiney little punk who called me up one Saturday and left a voicemail telling me he was quitting. I had worked half the day wondering where he was at when something told me to check my office VM. He claimed he "didn't like how I ran my business" -- which translated into he didn't like doing work that was "beneath him". A few months later I got emails from him begging for his job back as he wasn't able to find another one. F you dude...
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I call the hall and they never have anyone to send
Then your hall is doing you an injustice and there is no benefit of you being a union contractor.
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I call the hall and they never have anyone to send

Where are you located that biz is doing so good the hall has no one on their books?
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a lot of guys just want to do the work they are not really into selling the job.,I have toyed with the idea of hiring a salesman
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Fish where no one else fishes.

Everyone and their mom asks at the supply house (even I do). I ask at Plumbing, HVAC, mom and pop hardware stores, etc...... Everyone has a nephew, son, brother, brother-in-law, neighbor at these places whom may fit.

What about unemployment and finding a MECHANIC whom is older and got downsized, etc....?

There is even better ones, but my lips are sealed for now. You can figure them out if you think out of the box.

I heard people are dumping their trash, so be careful what comes up worker wise. I have gotten stung before.
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What is implied in the OP is an electrician with sales skills, the residential service business dream employee.

When you think about it you're asking for a guy that's smart, but not too smart. You're asking for a guy with the intelligence and personality for sales that can also install productively...but not smart enough to know that with wicked sales skills he could make twice as much in sales in a job where he's not limited by production. Consider being in sales but your commission is limited by what you can install in a day.

The same guy can sell a million widgets from an office, get that commission and then sell another million widgets on another call. Take a look at the difference in prevailing wages of electricians and salespeople.
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What is implied in the OP is an electrician with sales skills, the residential service business dream employee.

When you think about it you're asking for a guy that's smart, but not too smart. You're asking for a guy with the intelligence and personality for sales that can also install productively...but not smart enough to know that with wicked sales skills he could make twice as much in sales in a job where he's not limited by production. Consider being in sales but your commission is limited by what you can install in a day.

The same guy can sell a million widgets from an office, get that commission and then sell another million widgets on another call. Take a look at the difference in prevailing wages of electricians and salespeople.
Companies and customers are looking for smart sales people these days.
Game tickets and lunch doesn't cut it anymore.
And selling widgets from an office is much different than up selling electrical work. There really is little to compare.

I do agree a guy that is in sales will do better in sales, if all he does is sales. I agree the guy on the job has an opportunity to sell, but is limited in these opportunities as the job comes first.

And sales in a residential market is very much different than sales in an industrial market. My only sales experience is in industrial. This is a job where you better know your **** or you get the boot in a hurry.
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Anyone worth their salt is already working, and if they are unemployed, it won't be for long. Most have something lined up ahead of time or something else to fall back on.

Money talks, BS walks...
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Where are you located that biz is doing so good the hall has no one on their books?
There are guys on the books, we are just not in the same town as the hall. The town I am in is about 150 miles from the hall.

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Find a farm kid and train them. Vast majority are very good workers.
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