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blueheels2 · 04-22-2009, 06:29 PM

Saw you wanted to cross over into Vermont. As of 4 years ago you did not need a license to do work there. I think in the Burlington area you needed one and maybe Barre as well. Let me clarify that is for resi. For any commercial I think you need one. That is in no way encouragement to get a license. Good luck with your business. I am planning something very similar in NC.

BroadviewElec · 04-22-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blueheels2

Saw you wanted to cross over into Vermont. As of 4 years ago you did not need a license to do work there. I think in the Burlington area you needed one and maybe Barre as well. Let me clarify that is for resi. For any commercial I think you need one. That is in no way encouragement to get a license. Good luck with your business. I am planning something very similar in NC.

Ah, NC. I love it down there. We vacationed in Emerald Isle on the outter banks. That was sweet. I have been wanting to get back down there. We've even tossed the idea around of moving down there. Good luck to you with your business as well.

1991 Storm Trooper · 04-23-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueheels2

Saw you wanted to cross over into Vermont. As of 4 years ago you did not need a license to do work there. I think in the Burlington area you needed one and maybe Barre as well. Let me clarify that is for resi. For any commercial I think you need one. That is in no way encouragement to get a license. Good luck with your business. I am planning something very similar in NC.

Wisconsin is the same way, you don't need a license to do electrical work. At least not yet, that is to happen 2011. You can't pull a permit unless your a master, but the home owner or builder can. All the inspectors care about is that it folows national and state codes.

That said... I just got layed off so I am now going to take may part time buiz and just go for it full time. I'm not working as it is so want the h#ll! Besides my wife is driving me nuts. LOL!!

Point is... My small time thing has put me in contact with some good people (builders). So now I have the time to do bigger and better things for the same guys. So much so that I have sponsership at the local builders assocation which if I chose to join will help ever more.

Connections, connections, connections..... AND INSURANCE!!!!!!

piette · 04-24-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 1991 Storm Trooper

Wisconsin is the same way, you don't need a license to do electrical work. At least not yet, that is to happen 2011. You can't pull a permit unless your a master, but the home owner or builder can. All the inspectors care about is that it folows national and state codes.

Ah......nope!! In Wisconsin you are not allowed to touch anything electrical on any property you do not occupy, live in homeowners only!!! Builders can NOT pull the permits for you, nobody can.

And any smart home owner would look into this as well: Directly from the wisconsin building code;

Note: Section 101.654 (1) (b), Stats., exempts an owner of a dwelling who resides
or will reside in the dwelling and who applies for a building permit to perform work
on the dwelling from obtaining a dwelling contractor financial responsibility registration.
Under s. 101.65 (1r), an owner who obtains a building permit needs to sign a
statement advising the owner of the potential consequences of hiring a contractor to

perform work under the permit who is not bonded or insured under s. 101.654 (2) (a),

Jeff

1991 Storm Trooper · 04-26-2009, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by piette

Ah......nope!! In Wisconsin you are not allowed to touch anything electrical on any property you do not occupy, live in homeowners only!!! Builders can NOT pull the permits for you, nobody can.

And any smart home owner would look into this as well: Directly from the wisconsin building code;

Note: Section 101.654 (1) (b), Stats., exempts an owner of a dwelling who resides
or will reside in the dwelling and who applies for a building permit to perform work
on the dwelling from obtaining a dwelling contractor financial responsibility registration.
Under s. 101.65 (1r), an owner who obtains a building permit needs to sign a
statement advising the owner of the potential consequences of hiring a contractor to

perform work under the permit who is not bonded or insured under s. 101.654 (2) (a),

Jeff

Ah......let me make it a bit more clear for you. In wisconsin,, as of right now,, you do not need a (card, credential, licence) to perform electrical work,, in all municipalities.

1991 Storm Trooper · 04-26-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by piette

Ah......nope!! In Wisconsin you are not allowed to touch anything electrical on any property you do not occupy, live in homeowners only!!! Builders can NOT pull the permits for you, nobody can.

And any smart home owner would look into this as well: Directly from the wisconsin building code;

Note: Section 101.654 (1) (b), Stats., exempts an owner of a dwelling who resides
or will reside in the dwelling and who applies for a building permit to perform work
on the dwelling from obtaining a dwelling contractor financial responsibility registration.
Under s. 101.65 (1r), an owner who obtains a building permit needs to sign a
statement advising the owner of the potential consequences of hiring a contractor to

perform work under the permit who is not bonded or insured under s. 101.654 (2) (a),

Jeff

Electrician's Credentials
In Wisconsin you can get a state master, journeyman, or electrical contractor credential which allows you to do electrical work in any municipality in the state that requires a license. To apply, contact:

Department of Commerce, Safety and Buildings Division
201 W. Washington Avenue
P. O. Box 7082
Madison, WI 53707-7082

Were in state statute 101.654(1)(b) that you referance, does it say you, as an electrician, are not allowed to work on someones dwelling if they (the home owner) pulls a permit?????
All this says is that the home owner is exemt from paying the $40whatever that a builder has to pay every year to be able to pull permits

state statute 101.65(1r) All this says is that the issuer of the building permit,, is required to inform the home owner that is pulling the permit,, to make sure that who ever does the work has insurance

william1978 · 04-26-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 480sparky

Truth be told, the list is most likely incomplete.

But it sure is a good list for sure.

piette · 04-26-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1991 Storm Trooper

Electrician's Credentials
In Wisconsin you can get a state master, journeyman, or electrical contractor credential which allows you to do electrical work in any municipality in the state that requires a license. To apply, contact:

Department of Commerce, Safety and Buildings Division
201 W. Washington Avenue
P. O. Box 7082
Madison, WI 53707-7082

Were in state statute 101.654(1)(b) that you referance, does it say you, as an electrician, are not allowed to work on someones dwelling if they (the home owner) pulls a permit?????
All this says is that the home owner is exemt from paying the $40whatever that a builder has to pay every year to be able to pull permits

state statute 101.65(1r) All this says is that the issuer of the building permit,, is required to inform the home owner that is pulling the permit,, to make sure that who ever does the work has insurance

So go ahead and do a job and have the home owner pull the permit for you. But give me the address of the job site you are doing it on, if you are so confident, you should have no problem doing this at all. I on the otherhand will be laughing my butt off, as another unlicensed hack takes a fall for working on someone elses property unlicensed.

Jeff

1991 Storm Trooper · 04-26-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by piette

So go ahead and do a job and have the home owner pull the permit for you. But give me the address of the job site you are doing it on, if you are so confident, you should have no problem doing this at all. I on the otherhand will be laughing my butt off, as another unlicensed hack takes a fall for working on someone elses property unlicensed.

Jeff

Oh come on.. I'm not trying to fight with you about it, I'm just stating a fact. As I said earlyer, are state is going to change this and I think it's a good thing. At the very least, it protacts are trade so that people like you and I don't lose are jobs to contractors that hire non U.S. citizens, don't pay them the same and under bid the jobs.

Right now, there are a lot of contractor that have people working for them that have been doing this for years and have never taken the time to go take a test. These workers will need a card of some sort by 2011 to do electrical work or they will not have a job. I have my credentials so I'm not worried about it. And I am far from a hack.

That said... How many guy have you work with in the past that have a card and really suck at what they do?? And then work with a kid that doesn't have his time in yet to take a test but is fantastic because they study and leare??

LawnGuyLandSparky · 04-27-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedy Petey

Nope. In MANY areas none of the above.
Welcome to NY State.

The City and LI are a completely different story. Down there EVERYONE wants a piece of the pie. In fact, most want a whole pie to themselves.

I'd like to know how you'd feel if I brought 100 electricians from Guatamala and set them loose in your service territory at a $8.00 an hour wage.

That's how "we" feel about YOU working downstate. And the proportions are probably right on the money too.