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Old 01-11-2017, 11:08 AM   #21
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they make small wireless keyboards that work well for people like me, since I find the pads useless without them. you can even tote around a full size one that rolls up if that suits you, or if you have fat fingers like me.

However, what larmguy said is seriously important, and if you don't have a good backup strategy that ends up with a disconnected drive of some sort in a desk somewhere, forget it.
Try using speech to text, it is pretty nice.

As for backing up, I go one step further. I use a company called CrashPlan. The software manages my local backups to external hard drives, but for $60/year they do complete backups offsite on their secure servers. That is important because your own hard drive, even if unplugged, could be damaged in a fire or stolen.
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:11 AM   #22
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Quicksale: (thank you HackWork for the recommendation) I downloaded the free version and it's basically exactly what I am looking for to a T but as mentioned, if app development has ended then I cannot take the risk. I also do not like the fact that all information needs to be entered via the ipad only unless the paid version has an editable export feature? If not then that's a deal-breaker for me. I really like the detail of this app though and am tempted to purchase it anyway but I am afraid that with the next few ipad updates, or if I decide to buy a new ipad, the app will not be supported.
For $30 one time fee, you really can't lose.

And yes, there is a way to export and import all the items and assemblies with QuickSale. Just not the customer data.

But if I were to do it over, I may have gone with Mpengo based on a lot of good reviews from people here.

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Why not just go with online Quickbooks?
That is so bloated to use if you only want it for estimating and invoicing, IMO.
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Haven't used that one in a while but last I checked there is no way to customize the product and I wouldn't expect that to ever change as it's an app.I did like the service report it produces as you can add photos, however all my guys complained like crazy about using it and they prefered Quicksale as it was easier and straight forward.
How did you get around the fact that QuickSale is a 1-user app? You just updated it on each guy's iPad?
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How did you get around the fact that QuickSale is a 1-user app? You just updated it on each guy's iPad?
I wasn't too bad to set up each ipad exporting and importing CSV files through dropbox.
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For $30 one time fee, you really can't lose.

And yes, there is a way to export and import all the items and assemblies with QuickSale. Just not the customer data.

But if I were to do it over, I may have gone with Mpengo based on a lot of good reviews from people here.



That is so bloated to use if you only want it for estimating and invoicing, IMO.
Thanks you HackWork. Are you able to edit the assemblies list in Excel? I am really curious to see what it looks like once opened in Excel. Are you able to send me a screenshot of it or the actual xml file?
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Haven't used that one in a while but last I checked there is no way to customize the product and I wouldn't expect that to ever change as it's an app.I did like the service report it produces as you can add photos, however all my guys complained like crazy about using it and they prefered Quicksale as it was easier and straight forward.
Hi would you mind sharing what your guys disliked about the app?
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Thanks you HackWork. Are you able to edit the assemblies list in Excel? I am really curious to see what it looks like once opened in Excel. Are you able to send me a screenshot of it or the actual xml file?
Yes, you can edit it in Excel and then import it back into the app. I use a MAC and don't have Excel so I can't show you. But it's pretty straight forward.
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Yes, you can edit it in Excel and then import it back into the app. I use a MAC and don't have Excel so I can't show you. But it's pretty straight forward.
You can use OpenOffice or LibreOffice for free to open MS Office documents on a Mac, for free. It will open CSV fine, sometimes better than Excel. There's also one called Gnumeric that would work fine, much smaller download.

Of course you could use Google Docs on the tablet if you want to, too.
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You can use OpenOffice or LibreOffice for free to open MS Office documents on a Mac, for free. It will open CSV fine, sometimes better than Excel. There's also one called Gnumeric that would work fine, much smaller download.

Of course you could use Google Docs on the tablet if you want to, too.
Yes, I have Open Office, but I don't feel like d1cking around with it trying to get it to work since it will still be different than what Hangry wants to see.

Google Docs didn't work.
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While much of what I do is on a computer or iPad I still need to carry a pencil and small notebook to sketch something quickly.

Finger drawing or using a stylus still has a long way to go. Of course it may because of my shaky hands!! More vodka please.
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I have a macbook air. It is very easy to haul around and does pretty much anything both of my iPads do , only better.
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I have a macbook air. It is very easy to haul around and does pretty much anything both of my iPads do , only better.
I'd like to smack you

About 5 years ago I had said how a MacBook Air could do everything an iPad could and more, and you said the iPad was better. Now you flip-flopped like John Kerry.

I couldn't imagine trying to find a place to put a laptop down in a customer's house.
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I couldn't imagine trying to find a place to put an iPad down in a customer's house.

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Why would you have to put an iPad down? The Mini is great, just pull it out and do your business. The apps are made so that they are easy to key things into real quick.
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Why would you have to put an iPad down? The Mini is great, just pull it out and do your business. The apps are made so that they are easy to key things into real quick.
What kind of case are you using for the mini? My ipad stays in the truck for fear of smashing it but this cold weather is probably not good for it.
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What kind of case are you using for the mini? My ipad stays in the truck for fear of smashing it but this cold weather is probably not good for it.
I was using the Otterbox originally, but it's just too big. So I switched to the Magpul case many years ago and have been very happy. I am generally careful with my stuff so I haven't had any problems.
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I use a zero chroma folio-slide. Its really easy to hold in one had to use a stylus. Definatly not as durable as an otter or magpul though
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Mpengo: This one looks promising but no demo to try out. The app looks like it will be too in depth for my needs anyway as I just do small resi service calls from a one man shop but the more features the better I guess. I do not like the brown color scheme, can this be changed? Can contacts and material be entered via Excel and imported? I have emailed the developer and they are actually another Ontario based company literally 15 minutes from where I live and operate.
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I'd like to smack you

About 5 years ago I had said how a MacBook Air could do everything an iPad could and more, and you said the iPad was better. Now you flip-flopped like John Kerry.

I couldn't imagine trying to find a place to put a laptop down in a customer's house.
Try out the iPad pro 9.7




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I am just looking ta Quicksale and I really like it after playing with it some more. Can someone explain the difference between the pro version and lite version because the lite free version is pretty much all I need.
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