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04-30-2012, 05:37 AM
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I have a line item on every bill for %10 or so of an inflated labor price showing a %10 "professional Discount"
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04-30-2012, 08:18 AM
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Unfortunately, money can't buy class.
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The biggest tightwads I know are the richest customers. Just seems to come with the territory. One guy I know makes sure the range rover and Mercedes are tucked in the garage before any other service people arrive at his 2.3 Million dollar lake home. Like that will make a difference. 
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04-30-2012, 12:49 PM
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No, no
Hageling over a price is not a culturel thing its a people thing. When the post was put up the racial and or eithnic background of the person should not have been stated nor a picture of there home.
Whether you know it or not you are charged with protected your customers information.
Im just saying.
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04-30-2012, 12:56 PM
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Hageling over a price is not a cultural thing its a people thing....
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That's how I see it, too.
You really mean to tell me that a person who's smart enough to make millions isn't competent enough to understand that in this society, it's really insulting to agree on a price ahead of time, and then argue over such a piddling sum once services have been rendered faithfully?
"Cultural" is a poor excuse: It's just a person being a low-class tight-ass.
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04-30-2012, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Big John
That's how I see it, too.
You really mean to tell me that a person who's smart enough to make millions isn't competent enough to understand that in this society, it's really insulting to agree on a price ahead of time, and then argue over such a piddling sum once services have been rendered faithful
"Cultural" is a poor excuse: It's just a person being a low-class tight-ass.
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None of them will ever say "sorry, but culturally I must ask for $50 off" So its not an excuse, MD is just pointing out how natural it is for them to do so since people in their culture haggle with their best buds over pennies.
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04-30-2012, 01:36 PM
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Working for cheap asses can turn into cheap ass referrals too.
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04-30-2012, 01:51 PM
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Hageling over a price is not a culturel thing its a people thing.
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A friend of mine will say otherwise. He was in charge of an oil company division that built C-stores and installed fuel systems. They would do work for independent owners too. One of them was an Indian (Asian, not American). The guy would always beat up my buddy over the price. My buddy always held his ground because it was a fair price.
One day the C-store owner took my buddy to lunch and told him in the future to raise his price by 10% so he could haggle and get the price cut, that way his family would think better of him (that he could get the price cut).
So, you see, to some people haggling is a cultural thing.
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04-30-2012, 02:33 PM
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I have my set prices and thats what I bill.
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04-30-2012, 03:32 PM
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I work in a very affluent area, and I find a lot to be very tight. There's a reason they have money.
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That would be the reason...
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04-30-2012, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by hardworkingstiff
A friend of mine will say otherwise. He was in charge of an oil company division that built C-stores and installed fuel systems. They would do work for independent owners too. One of them was an Indian (Asian, not American). The guy would always beat up my buddy over the price. My buddy always held his ground because it was a fair price.
One day the C-store owner took my buddy to lunch and told him in the future to raise his price by 10% so he could haggle and get the price cut, that way his family would think better of him (that he could get the price cut).
So, you see, to some people haggling is a cultural thing.
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I understand this, I really do.....but that is THEIR culture, NOT mine!
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04-30-2012, 05:04 PM
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....But that is THEIR culture, NOT mine!
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Exactly my long-winded point.
When in Rome, do as the Romans do: When we go to India, I'll haggle; here in America, that don't fly.
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04-30-2012, 05:21 PM
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I understand this, I really do.....but that is THEIR culture, NOT mine!
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True, but you (and me) are trying to get "their" money, so if we play to them, we have a better chance of making their money our money.
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04-30-2012, 05:43 PM
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..no contractor should release the name of people they work for on a public forum, JMO. Commenting on their 'customers' in general is the way to go.
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04-30-2012, 07:39 PM
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Six years ago I wired a kitchen in this home
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04-30-2012, 09:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hardworkingstiff
A friend of mine will say otherwise. He was in charge of an oil company division that built C-stores and installed fuel systems. They would do work for independent owners too. One of them was an Indian (Asian, not American). The guy would always beat up my buddy over the price. My buddy always held his ground because it was a fair price.
One day the C-store owner took my buddy to lunch and told him in the future to raise his price by 10% so he could haggle and get the price cut, that way his family would think better of him (that he could get the price cut).
So, you see, to some people haggling is a cultural thing.
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This is very true. It's very much a cultural thing. Sure, some do it because they're cheep, but many of them do it as that is how they grew up, and in their culture it's the norm. It's hard to break old habits.
Nobody's telling anyone they HAVE to do it.
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04-30-2012, 09:09 PM
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..no contractor should release the name of people they work for on a public forum, JMO. Commenting on their 'customers' in general is the way to go.
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His name, a link to personal information AND a photo of his home. The internet makes the world a very small place. Many people would flip to know someone posted all that information as well as an unflattering story on a public forum. (I sure would). He didnt give you his resume, you googled his name. I am sure you didnt mean harm, but its not a cool thing to do and could harm your reputation if it got out. How do you know your competitors arent on here too? They could show this to him and that would be really bad for you. I'm just sayin.
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04-30-2012, 09:22 PM
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His name, a link to personal information AND a photo of his home. The internet makes the world a very small place. Many people would flip to know someone posted all that information as well as an unflattering story on a public forum. (I sure would). He didnt give you his resume, you googled his name. I am sure you didnt mean harm, but its not a cool thing to do and could harm your reputation if it got out. How do you know your competitors arent on here too? They could show this to him and that would be really bad for you. I'm just sayin.
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I agree. I think it would be wise to edit the post (If possible) or ask a mod to alter it a little. At minimum remove the link to Wiki.
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