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Old 07-21-2016, 08:16 PM   #81
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Old 07-21-2016, 08:35 PM   #82
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Clearly I'm not a worthy adversary. Out matched at every turn. 😪
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@TGGT , I'm vegan and believe that's the healthy way to go, but I'm
not going to try to convince you or the rest of this lot.
Instead, I'll say that asking for nutrition advice on an electrical forum
is probably worse than asking for electrical advice on a DIY forum. You
and your wife should get pro advice from a registered nutritionist. If
you're thinking about asking your doctor, ask him/her first how many
weeks or months they spend on nutrition in med school. It's next to zero.
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Clearly I'm not a worthy adversary. Out matched at every turn. 😪
You shouldn't be making it adversarial. There was no need for you to make discussions about panels or diets personal.
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@TGGT , I'm vegan and believe that's the healthy way to go, but I'm
not going to try to convince you or the rest of this lot.
Instead, I'll say that asking for nutrition advice on an electrical forum
is probably worse than asking for electrical advice on a DIY forum. You
and your wife should get pro advice from a registered nutritionist. If
you're thinking about asking your doctor, ask him/her first how many
weeks or months they spend on nutrition in med school. It's next to zero.
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This whole thing is such a fiasco because everyone, including nutritionists, have their own opinions. And the studies and tests that they read and choose to believe are usually surround their stances.

If you go to 4 nutritionists, 2 may say that a vegan diet is best, the other two may strongly promote a diet containing meat. Then the next nutritionist holds firm that the best diet by far is raw vegan.

How does anyone know what to do?
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Thank you for your wisdom. I could only aspire to reach such a level of complete and total knowledge in all things.
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This whole thing is such a fiasco because everyone, including nutritionists, have their own opinions. And the studies and tests that they read and choose to believe are usually surround their stances.

If you go to 4 nutritionists, 2 may say that a vegan diet is best, the other two may strongly promote a diet containing meat. Then the next nutritionist holds firm that the best diet by far is raw vegan.

How does anyone know what to do?
Go out for bids and take the lowest price.
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Thank you for your wisdom. I could only aspire to reach such a level of complete and total knowledge in all things.
I thought you already reached that goal? Wasn't it you who claimed he knew so much that he could be an expert witness?
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Focused on back, lumbar and shoulders. Time for the dinner of champions. Home made fried rice with chinese sweet sausage.

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I thought you already reached that goal? Wasn't it you who claimed he knew so much that he could be an expert witness?

Clearly a mistake and I have you to thank for gracing me with some enlightenment. Not total enlightenment like you have, just a taste to let me know exactly how foolish I am.
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Clearly a mistake and I have you to thank for gracing me with some enlightenment. Not total enlightenment like you have, just a taste to let me know exactly how foolish I am.
Since you mentioned it, you are acting really foolish and childish. How about you attribute it to one too many and come back tomorrow with a better attitude?
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Let's not. This is better than Netflix.
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You guys wanna know how come I got so smart about all these things I talk about? It's cause I have a copy of this book and you don't. It's so full of millions and millions of things to know.....

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May I borrow it? lol
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May I borrow it? lol
Dude, that book is the highlander of books. You don't just hand it over willy nilly.
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Dude, that book is the highlander of books. You don't just hand it over willy nilly.
But I said "May"!? My third grade teacher assured me I get permission by asking like that. Damnit!
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You have to see the reading material that I bestowed upon macmikeman the other day, a once in a lifetime windfall.
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@TGGT , I'm vegan and believe that's the healthy way to go, but I'm
not going to try to convince you or the rest of this lot.
Instead, I'll say that asking for nutrition advice on an electrical forum
is probably worse than asking for electrical advice on a DIY forum. You
and your wife should get pro advice from a registered nutritionist. If
you're thinking about asking your doctor, ask him/her first how many
weeks or months they spend on nutrition in med school. It's next to zero.
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She has quite a few vegan and vegetarian meals up her sleeves that are really delicious that you don't consider the lack of meat in it.

I take Siggi's strained yogurt for morning break now. Low sugar and dense in protein. I forgot it one day and grabbed some junk out of the vending machine and was hungry again within the hour. I never have that problem with this yogurt, easily lasts me to lunch time. They have a high fat creamy version that is really good, but it has me running to the bathroom within the hour so I'll only eat it at home. Spending 10 minutes trying to get in just the right spot on a boom lift, only to have to speed your way down before you crap your pants is not cool.
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No doubt, economics / business interests influence or corrupt the scientific process all the time.

Once the scientific community commits to a certain course, even if new evidence comes out, and you remove the financial motives, they don't want to admit they were wrong about anything, and they will cling to the error.
That's bull**** dude.. The scientific community changes it's mind regularly. Whenever new facts or experiential data comes to light. It's how science works and why it's one of the best devices mankind has come up with for understanding our world. Certain individuals might dig theory heals in but the community as a whole.... no.

The problem I think you are seeing is the slow release of new information to the public mind. The slow wheels of govt routinely stymie this flow of information. The media of course is absolutely horrible with regards to science. When they do bother to report on new findings they are almost as a rule sensationalized and twisted beyond the intent of their researchers. 30 years is the rule of thumb for new tech or info to make it's way into the zeitgeist (sic).

This is appropriate for this thread because it is just as true for nutrition science as any other. I've made a special study of nutrition science over the last decade. I can tell you for fact that any advice you get from an Institution is way behind the current science. If you want nutrition facts you pretty much have to be reading the research papers for yourself or find someone who does to disseminate for you.

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That's bull**** dude.. The scientific community changes it's mind regularly. Whenever new facts or experiential data comes to light. It's how science works and why it's one of the best devices mankind has come up with for understanding our world. Certain individuals might dig theory heals in but the community as a whole.... no.
That scientific community is the same one who brought us the global warming farce. They saw the money train coming and made sure that the results were where they needed to be in order to keep that money coming in.
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