Getting brakes changed - Page 2 - Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum
CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY, IT'S FREE!
Go Back   Electrician Talk - Professional Electrical Contractors Forum > Electrician Talk Community > Off Topic (Non Trade)


Like Tree25Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-27-2016, 04:02 PM   #21
Senior Member
 
Signal1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 745
Rewards Points: 374
Default

^^^Perfect post by @frenchelectrican^^^ I used to work in an auto parts store in high school.

This is the stuff he's talking abouthttp://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/c...016/12032707-p
Majewski likes this.
Signal1 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Signal1 For This Useful Post:
frenchelectrican (11-27-2016)
Join Contractor Talk

Join the #1 Electrician Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

ElectricianTalk.com - Are you a Professional Electrical Contractor? If so we invite you to join our community and see what it has to offer. Our site is specifically designed for you and it's the leading place for electricians to meet online. No homeowners asking DIY questions. Just fellow tradesmen who enjoy talking about their business, their trade, and anything else that comes up. No matter what your specialty is you'll find that ElectricianTalk.com is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally free!

Join ElectricianTalk.com - Click Here JOIN FOR FREE


Warning: The topics covered on this site include activities in which there exists the potential for serious injury or death. ElectricianTalk.com DOES NOT guarantee the accuracy or completeness of any information contained on this site. Always use proper safety precaution and reference reliable outside sources before attempting any construction or remodeling task!

Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-27-2016, 04:37 PM   #22
still in business
 
sbrn33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: middle america
Posts: 7,870
Rewards Points: 1,684
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Signal1 View Post
^^^Perfect post by @frenchelectrican^^^ I used to work in an auto parts store in high school.

This is the stuff he's talking abouthttp://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/c...016/12032707-p
Supposed to put that on when the before the brakes are installed. Any good mechanic knows that. He needs to find a new one.
__________________
It's just that simple
sbrn33 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2016, 05:00 PM   #23
Senile Member
 
macmikeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Honolulu
Posts: 20,205
Rewards Points: 2,746
Default

Just don't let air go back up the brake lines, the ox sensors are expensive to replace.
__________________
“That all changes—starting right here and right now.” Jan. 20 “will be remembered as the day the people became the rulers of this nation again.” Donald Trump
macmikeman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2016, 11:13 PM   #24
Senior Member
 
cabletie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: N.J.
Posts: 1,050
Rewards Points: 84
Default

Sometimes the brake hoses going to the caliper collapse. It happens inside the hose so you can't see it.

I had problems with a caliper hanging up so flushed out the fluid and replaced the caliper. It was still wearing the pads faster on that wheel. So asked a mechanic what it could be. He said try the hose. That fixed it.
frenchelectrican and WronGun like this.
cabletie is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to cabletie For This Useful Post:
telsa (11-27-2016)
Old 11-27-2016, 11:26 PM   #25
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 6,432
Rewards Points: 11,138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cabletie View Post
Sometimes the brake hoses going to the caliper collapse. It happens inside the hose so you can't see it.

I had problems with a caliper hanging up so flushed out the fluid and replaced the caliper. It was still wearing the pads faster on that wheel. So asked a mechanic what it could be. He said try the hose. That fixed it.

Faults within the (vacuum assisted) power booster also do not show up.

Some indications: lousy gas mileage, sluggish acceleration, plenty of brake wear.

What's happening is that the booster is applying pressure even when your foot is off the brake.

This can also cause your brakes to squeal, too -- if conditions line up.
telsa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2016, 11:31 PM   #26
corn-fused
 
papaotis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: on the river, near the corn
Posts: 4,530
Rewards Points: 270
Default

WOW! after reading all this i see there no brake mechanics here! why would you take your vehicle back to same shop that already screwed it up twice? there is no grease that fixes a caliper, its only for the 'slides' that the caliper moves on. a stuck caliper there is no cure for except to replace or rebuild( unless youre familiar with this and have the tools, dont)
__________________
i like neat! just doesnt always happen
papaotis is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to papaotis For This Useful Post:
MechanicalDVR (11-28-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 12:59 AM   #27
Deplorable-Electrician
 
MechanicalDVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LIMBO
Posts: 22,408
Rewards Points: 16,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by papaotis View Post
WOW! after reading all this i see there no brake mechanics here! why would you take your vehicle back to same shop that already screwed it up twice? there is no grease that fixes a caliper, its only for the 'slides' that the caliper moves on. a stuck caliper there is no cure for except to replace or rebuild( unless youre familiar with this and have the tools, dont)
And no mention of the clip that goes on th eback of the piston side pad to lock it to the piston.

There is grease to keep the shoes from rubbing on the backer plate on drum brakes. Never greased pads or any parts for disc brakes.
__________________
DJT, making libtards cry since 20 Jan 2017
MechanicalDVR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 01:15 AM   #28
Senior Member
 
cabletie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: N.J.
Posts: 1,050
Rewards Points: 84
Default

I have only used caliper lube on the glides like papaotis mentioned. Sometimes that RTV stuff to get the pads glued on and stop rattling.

The only grease I ever heard off was a used car dealer trick. They would pack the old wheel cylinder with grease so you didn't see the break fluid leaking from the cylinder. Never believed they would do it. By the time you could do that, you could hone it and use a cheap rebuild kit.

Today it is only a little bit more for a new caliper than it is for the rebuild kit. Probably because of trade deals with china.
papaotis likes this.
cabletie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 01:36 AM   #29
Deplorable-Electrician
 
MechanicalDVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LIMBO
Posts: 22,408
Rewards Points: 16,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cabletie View Post
I have only used caliper lube on the glides like papaotis mentioned. Sometimes that RTV stuff to get the pads glued on and stop rattling.

The only grease I ever heard off was a used car dealer trick. They would pack the old wheel cylinder with grease so you didn't see the break fluid leaking from the cylinder. Never believed they would do it. By the time you could do that, you could hone it and use a cheap rebuild kit.

Today it is only a little bit more for a new caliper than it is for the rebuild kit. Probably because of trade deals with china.




frenchelectrican and papaotis like this.
__________________
DJT, making libtards cry since 20 Jan 2017
MechanicalDVR is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MechanicalDVR For This Useful Post:
telsa (11-28-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 04:02 AM   #30
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Sacramento, California
Posts: 6,432
Rewards Points: 11,138
Default

The last mechanic to work on my pick-up screwed me. He could've killed me.

So, I made life simple.

I just bought new parts for everything.

Believe me, assembling brand-new OEM parts goes very sweet.

Mechanics look upon tradesmen as 'marks.'

Probably because they've learned that anyone trusting them to do right must be a chump.
telsa is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 05:46 AM   #31
Senior Member
 
Signal1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 745
Rewards Points: 374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by papaotis View Post
WOW! after reading all this i see there no brake mechanics here! why would you take your vehicle back to same shop that already screwed it up twice? there is no grease that fixes a caliper, its only for the 'slides' that the caliper moves on. a stuck caliper there is no cure for except to replace or rebuild( unless youre familiar with this and have the tools, dont)
Quote:
put little grease on the slider for calipers
excatly what frenchelectrician said

Quote:
Originally Posted by MechanicalDVR View Post
And no mention of the clip that goes on th eback of the piston side pad to lock it to the piston.

There is grease to keep the shoes from rubbing on the backer plate on drum brakes. Never greased pads or any parts for disc brakes.
disc brake quiet is not grease, it basically forms a kind of rubber coating on the back (metal part) of the pad, you're supposed to let it dry before it goes in the caliper. A little ketchup pack usually comes in the box with the pads but it's not enough.
frenchelectrican likes this.

Last edited by Signal1; 11-28-2016 at 05:50 AM.
Signal1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 05:49 AM   #32
Senior Member
 
Signal1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 745
Rewards Points: 374
Default

Like so. I usually do it first, so it can dry while I'm taking the wheels off and brakes apart.
Attached Thumbnails
Getting brakes changed-brake_pad_install_01.jpg  

Signal1 is online now   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Signal1 For This Useful Post:
frenchelectrican (11-28-2016), Suncoast Power (11-28-2016)
Old 11-28-2016, 06:09 AM   #33
Senior Member
 
Signal1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Boston Area
Posts: 745
Rewards Points: 374
Default

Also Wrongun you should always request OEM parts, for your E250 van those are Motorcraft.
Signal1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 12:07 PM   #34
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: canada
Posts: 1,172
Rewards Points: 1,458
Default

i generally change caliper each time i change disc on my 1500 2002 gmc, they are just 35-40$ each for exchange!!
oliquir is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 04:59 PM   #35
Senior Member
 
WronGun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 591
Rewards Points: 234
Default Getting brakes changed

This whole thing is annoying ... anyways I bitched and brought the vehicle back..... they took all of their stuff off and started over with brand new parts.... they are using the premium Napa parts which probably aren't premium to begin with.... new pads, new rotors , new calipers , new hoses, and fluid flush, and oil change is going to run about $725 with tax, 400 of which I already paid the first time .... so I'll be spending another 325...I don't have the tools, time, or experience to do this myself.. plus I live in a uppity town home community and they don't want to see me in my driveway changing my van brakes ! Lol


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Last edited by WronGun; 11-28-2016 at 05:16 PM.
WronGun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 05:11 PM   #36
Senior Member
 
splatz's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Parts Unknown
Posts: 2,276
Rewards Points: 1,060
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by WronGun View Post
I don't have the tools, time, or experience to do this myself..
Best auto repair book I ever bought was

How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive:
A Manual of Step by Step Procedures for the Compleat Idiot
by John Muir



Muir said something smart about brakes, ''The ability to stop is often more important than any other capability-humans, cars, whathaveyous. Do a good slow solid job on your brakes''.

John Muir would agree with your decision.
WronGun likes this.
__________________
'You must either conquer and rule or serve and lose, suffer or triumph, be the hammer or the anvil.'

Last edited by splatz; 11-28-2016 at 05:31 PM.
splatz is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 05:14 PM   #37
Senior Member
 
WronGun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 591
Rewards Points: 234
Default

They pulled the wheels off and showed me the the caliper situation.... the rust is preventing them from releasing all the way....2006 e350..... only 51,000 miles but 11 yrs old now


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
WronGun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:04 PM   #38
Deplorable-Electrician
 
MechanicalDVR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LIMBO
Posts: 22,408
Rewards Points: 16,304
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliquir View Post
i generally change caliper each time i change disc on my 1500 2002 gmc, they are just 35-40$ each for exchange!!
That is really strange, I have owned a boatload of vehicles and have yet to change a caliper on any of them.
__________________
DJT, making libtards cry since 20 Jan 2017
MechanicalDVR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:10 PM   #39
Senior Member
 
WronGun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 591
Rewards Points: 234
Default

Just picked it up ... all fixed.... quiet and responsive


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
frenchelectrican likes this.
WronGun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2016, 08:11 PM   #40
Modérateur
 
frenchelectrican's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Philippines { for a while }
Posts: 5,737
Rewards Points: 534
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by oliquir View Post
i generally change caliper each time i change disc on my 1500 2002 gmc, they are just 35-40$ each for exchange!!
That kinda waste money on that if the caliper is working properly.

As long you dont see rust stain on pistion ya should be fine.

One way I do is crack open the brake line and see if you have clear fluid or not if dark color it will be wise to check more closer to see if you have rust in there and ya have to bleed it out some to get old fluid out.

Once that clear up then it should be good to go for long time.
__________________
Bleu est beau.
frenchelectrican is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How have you changed your wiring? meadow General Electrical Discussion 19 05-13-2016 04:43 PM
Right orientation of receptacle per CEC? nomadapower Canadian Electrical Code Forum 45 03-29-2016 12:49 AM
Have You Changed Your Business Structure? Cricket Business, Marketing, and Sales 2 01-14-2016 08:31 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:15 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.1
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2017 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Our Pro Sites Network
ContractorTalk.com | DrywallTalk.com | HVACSite.com | PaintTalk.com | PlumbingZone.com | RoofingTalk.com