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My nephew owes about 135 grand for school. He graduated from grad school about two years ago and hasnt found a job... Just recently he got a call back from the state police....
So in short, he spent all that money to get a job that he could have other wise gotten for much much less.....
A year ago he was offered an entry level position at some company with a starting salary of almost 40 grand and the shmuck turned it down.... He told me that was a joke considering his education.....  What really makes me laugh is he has almost no common sense and has ZERO street smarts... He was already turned down for the FBI so it will be interesting to see what happens ...
I agree with Brian... The schools have kids brainwashed into thinking that college is the only way to do it...
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Pretty much agree. People say how sad it is that college graduates can't get jobs with their diploma, when they hold a historic poetry degree or some other low demand degree.
Go ahead and hold out for "the job you deserve." I won't feel sorry for you when you live off of ramen noodles.
My brother just graduated with a "organized communication" degree and works at Wal Mart. He says one day he'll be making 6 figures. I don't completely doubt that one day that'll be true, but I just tell him not to count his eggs.
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06-17-2012, 10:05 PM
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Ahhh...the good old college days...
Good times
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06-17-2012, 10:08 PM
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He says one day he'll be making 6 figures.
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If you really want to mess with his head, tell him it will take 365 days to make 6 figures ~ or is he just going to work for that one day.
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06-17-2012, 10:08 PM
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Ahhh...the good old college days...
Good times
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Where are my fries.?? 
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06-17-2012, 10:10 PM
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I went here for two years
and studied math. I did well in my math and music classes but didn't like having to take a bunch of BS classes like history and art and stuff I had no interest in. But they wanted "well-rounded graduates" so they, like most other universities, have a required "core curriculum."
So I have to go there and spend half my time taking classes that have nothing to do with my major, paying $35,000 a year in tuition. What a crock.
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06-17-2012, 10:12 PM
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Ahhh...the good old college days...
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There are other options. He could go to tire college. 
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06-17-2012, 10:13 PM
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I went here for two years
and studied math. I did well in my math and music classes but didn't like having to take a bunch of BS classes like history and art and stuff I had no interest in. But they wanted "well-rounded graduates" so they, like most other universities, have a required "core curriculum."
So I have to go there and spend half my time taking classes that have nothing to do with my major, paying $35,000 a year in tuition. What a crock. |
I think colleges should eliminate the general education requirements, or at least pare them down quite a bit. That way, they'd send graduates into the workforce sooner and with less debt. But then again, the educational loan industry is a big racket.
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06-17-2012, 10:16 PM
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06-17-2012, 10:19 PM
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You get screwed at the drive-through ~ it's in the manual. 
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06-17-2012, 10:20 PM
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When I went to the gym today there were four young kids (18-22 maybe) discussing college. They were lambasting one of the group for not going to college, telling him he would be a loser with no future.
I wanted to ask the fools what their daddies made for a living last year and then compare checks.
One reason we are number 25, the belief propagated by schools that college is the only way.
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Most of us who are proud of our craft, as you are, still want our kids to not have to dig ditches...sweat the blood of a person who has the bad days... weeks...months that work is not available even if we are ready for it. We still want our children to go to college in order for them to be able to make "the" choice. Some parents may raise their children to believe that college is the only way and the "kids" ...and they are "kids" at that age, can tease one who cannot afford to attend.
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06-17-2012, 10:25 PM
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...We still want our children to go to college in order for them to be able to make "the" choice...
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I can understand that and respect it. But my concern is that we're making schooling so expensive, that by virtue of taking on the debt-burden someone has unintentionally limited their choices.
Yes, you can make a fine career as a tradesman, but even if a person is actually suited for that, who in their right mind is gonna want to be a helper for $15 an hour when they've got a six-figure note they're trying to pay off?
In that way it becomes an option of last resort, not a reasonable choice.
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06-17-2012, 10:27 PM
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06-17-2012, 10:29 PM
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On the other hand, college is a great place to find easy sluts.
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06-17-2012, 10:31 PM
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On the other hand, college is a great place to find easy sluts.
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So is the bars they hang out in after class and on the weekends..
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06-17-2012, 10:40 PM
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One of my ex girlfriends has her own casting company in NYC... She went to regular ole community college, did a internship with NBC and with lots of hard work eventually opened up her own company... I was really happy to see that..
Hard work and a little street smarts can also go along way....
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06-17-2012, 10:41 PM
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I think the days of going to school for an arbitrary degree are long gone.. If your gonna shell out that kind of money you better have a real idea of what you want to do...
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06-17-2012, 10:46 PM
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A college degree is worth it if you going into an occupation requiring one (medical, law, accounting, science, music, education, etc). But it's definitely not needed for the majority of the population IMO.
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I needed about 15 credits to graduate from a small business college in the city before i dropped out and went to cooking school.... When i told my parents, my dads head turned red and spun around a few times, I told him it just wasnt for me...
to this day, i sometimes lay in the shower and cry about it.... No just kidding at this point even if i finished it, it would have no bearing on my life now..
My neice went to lehigh in PA and spent almost 150 grand. Now she does something with a company called ask Gary (doctor referal system) in South Florida. So she also spent about 100 grand more than she needed to.....
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So is the bars they hang out in after class and on the weekends.. |
You have to beat easy college sluts back with a stick, don't you?
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06-17-2012, 10:49 PM
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So is the bars they hang out in after class and on the weekends.. |
Oh, look at that 60 year old stud with a beeper and a Members only jacket
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06-17-2012, 10:49 PM
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I can understand that and respect it. But my concern is that we're making schooling so expensive, that by virtue of taking on the debt-burden someone has unintentionally limited their choices.
Yes, you can make a fine career as a tradesman, but even if a person is actually suited for that, who in their right mind is gonna want to be a helper for $15 an hour when they've got a six-figure note they're trying to pay off?
In that way it becomes an option of last resort, not a reasonable choice.
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Life is rough but the "cart before the horse" phrase comes into play. No one should want to be a helper "after" they are in extreme debt. I am not trying to be mean but that is just the way it is.
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