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Old 05-02-2012, 08:30 AM   #1
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The mansion below was owned by the 'Smiths', they employed an illegal alien to do house work and watch their kids, gov't found out and charged the 'Smiths'. If found guilty , the 'smiths' would forfeit their mansion to the gov't.. Do you think the Gov't has the right to take the house away from these people?

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Old 05-02-2012, 08:34 AM   #2
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They did already in Muttontown , the "habeebs" lost their freedom and estate for false imprisonment and slavery of twp migrant girls.

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The right? NO! However I am sure it is the law.
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I'll answer that question with a question of my own:

If the couple on trial lived in a 1100 sq/ft bungalow, would you be asking the same question?

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The article states that the slave was entitled to 209,000, but was only paid 29,000. I would like to know how an illegal immigrant is entitled to anything other than a swift kick in the ass on their way out of the country.
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The article states that the slave was entitled to 209,000, but was only paid 29,000. I would like to know how an illegal immigrant is entitled to anything other than a swift kick in the ass on their way out of the country.
What about all the "nannies" who raise the kids for the movie stars in California.. I have never heard about any of them losing their house..

But I did say it was California..

Are you afraid to call them illegal aliens..

Some people are now saying it is racist to use that term..
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The mansion below was owned by the 'Smiths', they employed an illegal alien to do house work and watch their kids, gov't found out and charged the 'Smiths'. If found guilty , the 'smiths' would forfeit their mansion to the gov't.. Do you think the Gov't has the right to take the house away from these people?

http://www.timesunion.com/local/arti...rd-3526296.php

No ,but the government has the right to make her pay her illegal immigrant and the government should make the illegal immigrant pay the usual fine and be deported
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Are you afraid to call them illegal aliens..
Afraid? Just the term that came to mind. I could have called her one of the many names I have in my racist dictionary That being said, I am not a racist, just an american tax payer thats sick of illegal "aliens".
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The woman is due her pay one way or the other.

If she came over here legally on a work visa then she should be given the chance to start fresh.
If she came over here illegally then she should be deported along with her pay,, after taxes of course.
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Damn those idiots that chose to be born in poorer countries!

I often wonder what if the tables were turned and work dried-up here completely? I would feel a need to feed and house my family. Would I have the balls to go to another country where I didn't speak the language, knew I would be illegal, knew I would make very low wages and be looked down upon? I think my love for my wife and kids makes my answer yes.

Would you? Or would you have your family living on the street?

I have a hard time criticizing these people!
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I agree with Wirenuting, she should be paid and deported. The fact that she's here illegally is unrelated to the fact that she faithfully provided a service for money.

From an immigration standpoint this strikes me as people wanting to have their cake and eat it to: Folks are mad that immigration laws aren't enforced and it attracts a ton of illegals. Well, here's a case of enforcement for hiring an illegal. It may be stiff, but so be it, because the problem will never go away until demand goes away.

More to the point, this is a human-rights issue: The fact that she was illegal is small potatoes to me compared to the fact that she was forced into indentured servitude. That doesn't roll. And folks who would do that to another person deserve to have the book thrown at them.

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Damn those idiots that chose to be born in poorer countries!

I often wonder what if the tables were turned and work dried-up here completely? I would feel a need to feed and house my family. Would I have the balls to go to another country where I didn't speak the language, knew I would be illegal, knew I would make very low wages and be looked down upon? I think my love for my wife and kids makes my answer yes.

Would you? Or would you have your family living on the street?

I have a hard time criticizing these people!
I agree and find it sad that people are busy trying to turn this into a debate about immigration and away from the fact that some rich SOBs broke the law, got caught and now have to pay up.

Be mad at them for employing her, be mad at your politicians for not making immigration and boarder enforcement a priority.

And lastly, be POed at the politicians for cleaning out your wallet much faster and thoroughly than a 10000 illegal aliens could ever do.
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We as federal employees are required by law to report all suspected cases of human trafficking.
Failure to do so means termination, prosecution and loss of retirement.

We all get yearly training on this topic.
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We as federal employees are required by law to report all suspected cases of human trafficking.
Failure to do so means termination, prosecution and loss of retirement.

We all get yearly training on this topic.
That is a huge joke considering that under Clinton, Bush, and Obama, the immigration and naturalization or its present named DHS has on purpose told its agents to let thousands thru the border without enforcement of the existing laws on the books. Every major news network has reported on it.
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So the part that people are complaining about is the long standing (1800's) laws, both state and federal, that allows the seizure of property used in the commission of a crime?

In reading the details of that case as put forth in that article, I get the feeling there is a LOT more going on there than a (relatively) simple case of nanny abuse. The protagonist has at least 3 different names in that story and her first lawyer quit, that alone always makes me believe this is seriously nefarious from the outset. Remember, they never convicted Al Capone of any crime other than tax fraud, even though he openly admitted to several murders.

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That is a huge joke considering that under Clinton, Bush, and Obama, the immigration and naturalization or its present named DHS has on purpose told its agents to let thousands thru the border without enforcement of the existing laws on the books. Every major news network has reported on it.
I know,
But the official policy looks good on paper.

The majority of federal workers are middle class.
But,
We are held to a higher standard it seems then our over paid overlords.
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Every major news network has reported on it.
More tinfoil hat stuff, you found that info in 'Conspiracy Monthly'.







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I'll answer that question with a question of my own:

If the couple on trial lived in a 1100 sq/ft bungalow, would you be asking the same question?

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Absolutely, I also don't agree that you forfeit your car if caught in felony DWI (driving with minor in car while DWI in NYS)
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Wait a minute, does this mean the whitehouse will be seized?
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I agree and find it sad that people are busy trying to turn this into a debate about immigration and away from the fact that some rich SOBs broke the law, got caught and now have to pay up.

Be mad at them for employing her, be mad at your politicians for not making immigration and boarder enforcement a priority.

And lastly, be POed at the politicians for cleaning out your wallet much faster and thoroughly than a 10000 illegal aliens could ever do.
..the money has nothing to do with the law itself. Another example would be the gift cards that people get at x-mas time. NYS gets to keep that money if the card is not used before the expiration date on card (5 years or less). Why should the state get this money, and why does the card expire? In VT, MA, and CT its against the law for the cards to have an expiration date.

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