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erics37 · 12-18-2011, 09:28 PM

My mom posted this link on facebook. It is chilling. Here is the link for the original, but I copied and pasted the text.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/com...while_the_usa/

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People in The Netherlands have always looked up to the USA. It won't be long before that stops, I guess. These are stories I read, watched and heard in the mainstream media over here:

your political system is one of the most corrupt systems in the world
your politicians represent companies instead of people
your government will probably censor the internet
your government detains without trial
your government tortures people
your government hires mercenaries
your government does nothing to improve education
your president doesn't have any real influence over what happens
your presidential candidates are stupid beyond belief
your presidential candidates promote stupidity
your presidential candidates are not taking seriously over here
your elections are a joke
your media outlets cannot be trusted
your media outlets focus on distractions instead of main issues
your people are f**ked when they're uninsured
your infrastructure is collapsing
your economy will soon be top 3 instead of #1
your economy will probably collapse a second time

So it's not only Reddit or The Daily Show that is covering these issues. Other countries are watching and passing the popcorn while your country is collapsing. And I think it will get worse, not better. I am 29 years old and looking back at the world's history I don't think the problems above will be solved during my lifetime. It will probably have to get a lot worse before a movement arises that's big enough to demand real change.

Now you'll probably read this, take one small point out of my story and comment on that. That's okay, but please notice the trend of what's going on in your country. Do something about it. We need our big brother to act like role model. Right now he's high as a kite.

Chris1971 · 12-18-2011, 09:31 PM

Don't believe everything you read.

erics37 · 12-18-2011, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris1971

Don't believe everything you read.

Yeah. No problems to see here. Move along to the next flat-screen TV sale.

B4T · 12-18-2011, 09:35 PM

This "stupid" country just spent $800 billion to free Iraq and got nothing out of it..

We lost 4,486 service members and had 32,226 seriously wounded..

The U.S. is always first defending the rest of the world.. including Holland if they were ever invaded AGAIN..

Why are those facts not on that list..

Chris1971 · 12-18-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by B4T

This "stupid" country just spent $800 billion to free Iraq and got nothing out of it..

We lost 4,486 service members and had 32,226 seriously wounded..

The U.S. is always first defending the rest of the world.. including Holland if they were ever invaded AGAIN..

Why are those facts not on that list..

B4T · 12-18-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris1971

I thought you were looking at flat screen TV sales..

erics37 · 12-18-2011, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B4T

This "stupid" country just spent $800 billion to free Iraq and got nothing out of it..

We lost 4,486 service members and had 32,226 seriously wounded..

The U.S. is always first defending the rest of the world.. including Holland if they were ever invaded AGAIN..

Why are those facts not on that list..

I'm not going to respond to this one (other than this disclaimer) because if I do, I'll get banned.

Big John · 12-18-2011, 09:40 PM

I don't argue that we have a ton of problems, chief among them is our completely dysfunctional government that is hugely disconnected from the real-world problems of it's citizens.

That being said, saying things like we have "the most corrupt political system in the world" is either an unforgivable exaggeration, or else demonstrates an incredible ignorance of politics in other countries. Our system is definitely corrupt, but there are many places where positions of power are either taken through massive, blatant voter fraud, or outright use of force.

I find it hard to take a source seriously when it says things like that.

-John

B4T · 12-18-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by erics37

I'm not going to respond to this one (other than this disclaimer) because if I do, I'll get banned.

I posted facts that can be easily verified.. I don't see what your problem is..

1joeyj · 12-18-2011, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by B4T

I thought you were looking at flat screen TV sales..

I need to rent a uhaul.

B4T · 12-18-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1joeyj

I need to rent a uhaul.

Just mention my name and get 10% off..

erics37 · 12-18-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

Our system is definitely corrupt, but there are many places where positions of power are either taken through massive, blatant voter fraud, or outright use of force.

That is true, but most of those places don't play a dominant role on the world stage... they dramatically affect the people in those countries, but not so much everyone else.

Chris1971 · 12-18-2011, 09:45 PM

I think people overreact and believe everything they read. It's on the internet. It must be true.

brian john · 12-18-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by erics37

That is true, but most of those places don't play a dominant role on the world stage... they dramatically affect the people in those countries, but not so much everyone else.

Russia?
China?
Almost EVERY Country In the mid-east?
Mexico and most of Latin America, through in Most of South America and Africa.

Then there are the inept countries of Europe, seems the world is in the dumps.

amptech · 12-18-2011, 10:07 PM

Well, I've been all over the world and I'd still rather live here in the US than anywhere else without a second thought.

HARRY304E · 12-18-2011, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Big John

I don't argue that we have a ton of problems, chief among them is our completely dysfunctional government that is hugely disconnected from the real-world problems of it's citizens.

That being said, saying things like we have "the most corrupt political system in the world" is either an unforgivable exaggeration, or else demonstrates an incredible ignorance of politics in other countries. Our system is definitely corrupt, but there are many places where positions of power are either taken through massive, blatant voter fraud, or outright use of force.

I find it hard to take a source seriously when it says things like that.

-John

Damm John are you well?

I agree with you 100% this just can't be so...