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Old 04-27-2009, 11:33 AM   #1
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What is the best 1900 box or accessory, for metal studs, to keep the the box from pushing in opposite the stud side? Any tricks to fix existing boxes that push in?
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:37 AM   #2
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Erico Far Side Box Supports.

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What is the best 1900 box or accessory, for metal studs, to keep the the box from pushing in opposite the stud side? Any tricks to fix existing boxes that push in?
Erico H23... AKA H-bracket
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We use caddy H23 for metal stud box supports. If you have 6" studs you will need different part #.
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Erico H23... AKA H-bracket
That would be this.

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That would be this.

And they make a nice 3-box rig too, for all those (power) (clean power/IG) (Data) triple-box applications.
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That would be this.

These are easy to prefab in the shop
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Do they still sell those? I haven't seen those in a long time I bet atleast 12 years.
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We use caddy H23 for metal stud box supports. If you have 6" studs you will need different part #.
An H6 is what you would need for a 6" wall.
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Do they still sell those? I haven't seen those in a long time I bet atleast 12 years.
The pix are right from Erico's website.....
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I've used the H-23's for new work for probably 10-15 years. I fix one's that tip in by using the Caddy device leveling
ring on top of the drywall and tightening the yoke of the device up on the leveling ring really well.


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The pix are right from Erico's website.....
I guess what I meant to say is does anyone still use these?
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I guess what I meant to say is does anyone still use these?
I know of one guy...... old geezer, kinda set in his ways.....
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I know of one guy...... old geezer, kinda set in his ways.....
Everybody that I know of around here use h23,h6 or other caddy brackets.
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Erico H23... AKA H-bracket
thats what I always use. And you can use your standard 1900 stock without having to stock a different box with feet on it. very user/order friendly
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we've been looking into these

Raco 189H


but no one carries them locally, or seems to even be able to get a price...

otherwise we've been using H23's with mudrings for the last 20+ years...
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We use a block of wood between the studs -- gives rigid mounting all around!
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Mounting box right next to stud Box frames with finger. Or box brackets easy to get from caddy cat.Today the rock crews slam boards up jamming most box's in ,then they roto just the inside perimeter of the p-ring. If your lucky the don't scar up the wires.I've come close to all out wars over this shoddy craftsmanship.But with the low payed imported workers it 's useless to stress over it. Now if the rough inspection is good. I photo the depth of the box's in a few places. If at devicing there's a problem I tell my guys to hole saw a couple to flush them up and the rocks guys can worry about it during the punch list review.
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We use a block of wood between the studs -- gives rigid mounting all around!
not when I got 250 boxes going in a building, and not a block of wood to be found

i know some guys use new work deep metal gems with the brackets...if they are on the open side of the stud, they will install a short length of metal stud over the open side to give them a solid stud to screw into...
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For a while my company was using these black plastic stud things that stabed into the back of the box. Pretty slick, cant remember the manufacturer or name of them though...
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