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12-15-2007, 10:14 PM
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60 bucks for a can light
What is with the $60 recess light installation, I see ads in the penny saver and on craplists for orange and la county. How can you put up cans and make money at 60 bucks each. My price is over a 100 each and that's if there easy. My four inch mr16 with a white standerd trims are 145 each. How do these guys do it?
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12-15-2007, 10:22 PM
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Simple:
1. $8 Halo can from Big Orange.
2. $6 white step baffle trim from Big Orange.
3. $2 BR30 65W bulb ffrom Big Orange.
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12-16-2007, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Simple:
1. $8 Halo can from Big Orange.
2. $6 white step baffle trim from Big Orange.
3. $2 BR30 65W bulb ffrom Big Orange.
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4. Labor at $5 per can
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12-16-2007, 12:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bkessler
How can you put up cans and make money at 60 bucks each. My price is over a 100 each and that's if there easy.
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Again this type of work has unforeseens. Truss in the way, cutting into an existing patch, home owner wanting to help.
$100 a cheap H-7 thats 1990's. But I guess if you need the work.
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12-16-2007, 07:06 AM
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the guys who started this mess use the old, "$60 if the sun and the moon are in correct alignment" scam...unfortunately, because you have wood and sheetrock in your house, we have to charge you $150...
the tag along guys aren't smart enough to know the game, so they actually try to install for $60....but they also think if they make $100 for the day, they are doing great.
old work Halo H7ICT with basic baffle trim and lamp - $170 each (1-4), $150 each (5-8), $125 ea (8+)
we will usually included the switch.
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12-16-2007, 10:53 AM
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Old man that real close to what I charge 1- 240 2-400 3-6 150 each 7-10 150 each 10 or more 115. This inludes a switchleg for every 4 cans. Attic or no attic.
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12-16-2007, 11:54 AM
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There is one company in my area that charges $65 a can and $45 for the switch. They also advertise $225 to switch out a ceiling fan. They are not generally cheap they just use it as a loss leader. I just tell people to call them for their cans.
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12-16-2007, 12:43 PM
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Note to self, avoid residential price wars.
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Last edited by randomkiller; 12-16-2007 at 12:54 PM.
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12-16-2007, 12:54 PM
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I'm glad Commerical Electric doesn't sell anything in my market yet. Sounds like real cheap crap.
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They sell it here, and you're right, it's crap. I went to add cans in a kitchen of a house and when I showed up they homeowners were very proud that they were going to save money by supplying their own cans, which of course were Commercial Electric. I checked them out thinking, "Heck, I don't care, the cans only cost me $12 a piece anyway. I can reduce my bill by $84 and still keep the same profit." Naa, I told them I didn't feel good about installing them because the quality of them was inferior. They went with my reccomendation and went with the Halo's that I supplied.
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12-16-2007, 01:39 PM
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does anybody use elco cans? and how do you feel about them. There made in china, but they seem like decent quality to me.
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12-16-2007, 02:17 PM
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el abogado del diablo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wireless
There is one company in my area that charges $65 a can and $45 for the switch. They also advertise $225 to switch out a ceiling fan. They are not generally cheap they just use it as a loss leader. I just tell people to call them for their cans.
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12-16-2007, 02:29 PM
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12-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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How about RUUD?
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12-16-2007, 08:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wireless
I just tell people to call them for their cans.
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Take the job at your price and sub it out to the $60 bozos.
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12-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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Take the job at your price and sub it out to the $60 bozos. 
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They are calling us and asking if we will match the $65 a can.
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12-16-2007, 10:00 PM
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Commercial has it's equivalent of the $60.00 can
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12-17-2007, 06:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bkessler
What is with the $60 recess light installation, I see ads in the penny saver and on craplists for orange and la county. How can you put up cans and make money at 60 bucks each. My price is over a 100 each and that's if there easy. My four inch mr16 with a white standerd trims are 145 each. How do these guys do it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 480sparky
Simple:
1. $8 Halo can from Big Orange.
2. $6 white step baffle trim from Big Orange.
3. $2 BR30 65W bulb ffrom Big Orange.
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$32 for 4 cans, $24 for trims, $8 for lamps, = $64.00 plus about 6.00 for a cut in gem and a switch & plate. Using an existing circuit, maybe $10. for wire - that's 80.00 in material for $240.00 gross - the installer will net $160.00.
Do this 5x a week and he's got $800.00 a week income. What's his take-home working for a contractor?
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12-17-2007, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
$32 for 4 cans, $24 for trims, $8 for lamps, = $64.00 plus about 6.00 for a cut in gem and a switch & plate. Using an existing circuit, maybe $10. for wire - that's 80.00 in material for $240.00 gross - the installer will net $160.00.
Do this 5x a week and he's got $800.00 a week income. What's his take-home working for a contractor?
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The switch is an additional $45
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12-17-2007, 10:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky
$32 for 4 cans, $24 for trims, $8 for lamps, = $64.00 plus about 6.00 for a cut in gem and a switch & plate. Using an existing circuit, maybe $10. for wire - that's 80.00 in material for $240.00 gross - the installer will net $160.00.
Do this 5x a week and he's got $800.00 a week income. What's his take-home working for a contractor?
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I guess if he's doing it on the side with no insurance and all the other headaches to go along with it he's doing ok. But for $800 a week I'd rather work for someone else. That's $25.00/hr, not too hard to find those rates for a good electrician around here.
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12-18-2007, 12:07 AM
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not to mention I am sure he's not booked five days a week four weeks a month.
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