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08-14-2011, 08:53 PM
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Another round about question
Type UF and type NM have the same conductors. I had both in the same box and both had identical unmarked type thhn/thwn conductors. Why do the manufacturers fail to mark the conductor type on these cables ?
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08-14-2011, 08:57 PM
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Because theyre not required to.
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08-14-2011, 08:58 PM
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If they were unmarked, how do you know they were THHN/THWN? 
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08-14-2011, 09:29 PM
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If the conductors were marked.. 1/3 of the posts on this forum would not of been needed.. 
It has been a long running debate what type of insulation is used in NM..
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08-14-2011, 09:35 PM
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............It has been a long running debate what type of insulation is used in NM..
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The answer is simple: 90°C insulation.
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08-14-2011, 09:37 PM
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The answer is simple: 90°C insulation.
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Since when is 90 0C a type.. 
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08-14-2011, 09:45 PM
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Since when is 90 0C a type.. |
The type of cable us the "type". The can build it with any thermoplastic conductor insulation that fulfills the requirements of the cable type.
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08-14-2011, 09:49 PM
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It's PVC
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08-14-2011, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
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Since when is 90 0C a type.. |
As opposed to 75°C 'types' and 60°C 'types'. 
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08-14-2011, 10:18 PM
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It's PVC
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Can you install PVC Inside PVC..??
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08-14-2011, 10:20 PM
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Why ask why?
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08-14-2011, 10:34 PM
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Why ask why?
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I don't know why but if someone knows why then someone else will find it in the code why it is not allowed .
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08-14-2011, 10:40 PM
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I don't know why but if someone knows why then someone else will find it in the code why it is not allowed . |
I install copper and aluminum inside of steel all the time.
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08-14-2011, 10:56 PM
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I install copper and aluminum inside of steel all the time.
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Do you use the steel as the EGC..?? 
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08-14-2011, 11:31 PM
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Do you use the steel as the EGC..?? |
Yepper!
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