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The best PhotoBucket public images!
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Thanks John for all of the great pictures you post!
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11-03-2009, 07:34 PM
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11-03-2009, 07:50 PM
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11-03-2009, 07:54 PM
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What's wrong with an MC From-To? 
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11-03-2009, 07:56 PM
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Something about the rigid coupling not being listed for that purpose or some crap, i think.
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11-03-2009, 08:01 PM
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that "conductor tap" is unbelievable 
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11-03-2009, 08:01 PM
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Something about the rigid coupling not being listed for that purpose or some crap, i think.
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Joe will know.............. 
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11-03-2009, 08:19 PM
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Joe will know.............. |
See the NECA Standard identified in the NEC in Section 110.12 where it makes it clear that the methods used with various fittings are not listed for that purpose!
Go to www.ul.com and ask the UL Engineers, I won that argument long ago!
PS: Question: Joe why do you underline the word Section?
Answer: Because that's is the correct way to identify the rule in the NEC when not just using the numbers. Use of the word Article 110.12 shows the lack of understanding of the NFPA NEC Manual of Style.
If you don't believe me call the NFPA Electrical Department and get it from them! 
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11-03-2009, 09:04 PM
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OMG that last pic ..lol screw into a phase and tapped...I PRAY that wasn't done by an electrician 
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11-03-2009, 09:52 PM
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OMG that last pic ..lol screw into a phase and tapped...I PRAY that wasn't done by an electrician |
na just a handyman!
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11-03-2009, 09:59 PM
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OMG that last pic ..lol screw into a phase and tapped...I PRAY that wasn't done by an electrician |
I think the tops the floating soap bottle  This is the craziest pic relating to the trade that I've ever seen.
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11-04-2009, 12:21 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
See the NECA Standard identified in the NEC in Section 110.12 where it makes it clear that the methods used with various fittings are not listed for that purpose!
Go to www.ul.com and ask the UL Engineers, I won that argument long ago!
PS: Question: Joe why do you underline the word Section?
Answer: Because that's is the correct why to identify the rule in the NEC when not just using the numbers. Use of the word Article 110.12 shows the lack of understanding of the NFPA NEC Manual of Style.
If you don't believe me call the NFPA Electrical Department and get it from them! |
I think you mean: way
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11-04-2009, 05:28 AM
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OMG that last pic ..lol screw into a phase and tapped...I PRAY that wasn't done by an electrician |
Nope worse ....DIY's. The tap was for a buzzer to let the DIY's know when the power came back on. They would turn the main breaker off and back feed the panel with a generator. I fixed it by selling them a generator with a transfer switch............they were getting tired of doing the manual method. 
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11-04-2009, 05:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
See the NECA Standard identified in the NEC in Section 110.12 where it makes it clear that the methods used with various fittings are not listed for that purpose!
Go to www.ul.com and ask the UL Engineers, I won that argument long ago! |
I think you are full of it or maybe it's just selective memory.
All UL will say is the fittings have not been tested for grounding in that use. Approval is up to the AHJ.
I will continue to use a conduit coupling and various connectors to make change overs.
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11-04-2009, 06:17 AM
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You are violating 300.15!
You are violating Section 300.15 young man!
"Fittings and connectors shall be used only with the specific wiring methods for which they are designed and listed."
PS: How close is your shop to Leo Martin's school and when are you at your desk there in Norwood?
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11-04-2009, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Tedesco
You are violating Section 300.15 young man!
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Nice to know I am still a young man at 45.
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"Fittings and connectors shall be used only with the specific wiring methods for which they are designed and listed."
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Yes and I use MC cable connectors to connect MC cable to the counduit coupling which is listed to 'couple' from there I use a an EMT connnetor to conect EMT. Everything is being used as listed.
And again, when pressed all UL will say is they have not teted that combination for grounding. It is up to the AHJ to approve or not. So if an AHJ has a hair across there ass they could proably give me a hard time .... but they will not.
From the UL white book, it is regarding modifications to UL equipment but applies here as well.
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PS: How close is your shop to Leo Martin's school and when are you at your desk there in Norwood?
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I consider that none of your bussiness and odd that you would even ask.
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11-04-2009, 06:53 AM
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Do you sleep on the side of the bed closest to the door, or the other side?
Just curious...
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11-04-2009, 06:53 AM
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You are violationg Section 300.15
You are still violating Section 300.15
The AHJ is wrong for allowing you to violate the simple rule above that makes the installations you describe illegal!
I will make it my point to tell them when I go to their next meeting!
To me you are still a young man!
PS: Check your spelling!
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11-04-2009, 07:01 AM
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You are still violating Section 300.15
It is not a secret where you work!
The AHJ is wrong for allowing you to violate the simple rule above that makes the installations you describe illegal!
I will make it my point to tell them when I go to their next meeting!
To me you are still a young man!
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Joe, could you at least for a moment pretend to respect people's privacy? 
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11-04-2009, 07:14 AM
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Web addreess was listed here!
He had his web page listed in his profile here and now it is gone!
Why don't you allow the Photoshop images of yours to be viewed?
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