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Old 09-06-2011, 08:14 AM   #41
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Generac is a very decent product. You get a lot of bang for you buck. The installs are smooth. The only design issue I have is that there is not enough room to land the wires on the breaker. I have had few issues with them. One issue the ribbon cable came loose during transportation and caused the screen not to function. The other was the remote monitor wouldn't except the signal from the transmitter. Called tech support for both problems and they were very helpful. I would always recommend a Generac.

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Old 09-06-2011, 08:20 AM   #42
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If he doesn't need more circuits than what the loan comes with, you"d be wasting his money to buy a srts. The panels will accommodate afci's. So unless he needs more circuits than what will fit, I'd install exactly that.
Same here. I have one to do next week. I let the guy buy it. I told him to purchase it, ask the building department where he can put it, set it in place, call me to hook it up.

He's buying an 8kw Generac with a 100 circuit panel/ats. He's going to select the circuits he wants powered. Keep it simple.
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Old 09-06-2011, 08:24 AM   #43
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I also have one that wants one. My problem is the electrician that upgraded the service.......left the meter directly on top of the gas meter and fed into the meterpan on the right. So we need to excavate the old lateral and relocate it to another wall away from the gas, AC and all the other jazz on that wall. Since the boys wills be doing the digging, he's thinking about moving the generac away from the house . I got to put an install/ service correction number together, somewhere about 4k labor, 2.5 days.
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I also have one that wants one. My problem is the electrician that upgraded the service.......left the meter directly on top of the gas meter and fed into the meterpan on the right. So we need to excavate the old lateral and relocate it to another wall away from the gas, AC and all the other jazz on that wall. Since the boys wills be doing the digging, he's thinking about moving the generac away from the house . I got to put an install/ service correction number together, somewhere about 4k labor, 2.5 days.

Around here, you only need 3' clearance from meter to gas vent, or 10' for OCPD to gas vent. And that only applies if the regulator vents to atmosphere. You could actually pipe the vent to another location and leave the gas meter.
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Were they the Centurion units?
I have no idea, they had "Generac" on the box, that's all I know. One that we installed didn't even start up. I'm sure that homeowner was thrilled.

Another we had sat in the shop because the rotor came in contact with the stator and it destroyed itself.

A few days before a snowstorm was due to come through a homeowner went to give his a test run and that turn into a service call.

I didn't work for that company longer than 3 months. And seeing as Generac sales were their main focus I'm glad I didn't. I would never stand behind that product.
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I work for a company that has installed alot of generators, Generac, Kohler, and Cummins, out of the 3 brands we have had more problems with the Kohlers than Generac or Cummins.

Since the code change requiring us to size the Generator for the load that is automatically transfered it has changed the game,theres lots of install options out there, you can install a Load shedding Transfer switch or install a essential circuit sub panel and size the Generator for the sub panel but the Generac pre-wired load center transfer switch is actually a labor saving unit, and a heck of alot cheaper when bought as a package.
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I work for a company that has installed alot of generators, Generac, Kohler, and Cummins, out of the 3 brands we have had more problems with the Kohlers than Generac or Cummins.
Yours is the first post on this forum that has said Kohler has more problems than Generac..

Good to hear from someone who installs all the major brands..

The ratio is 1000 to 1..
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Yours is the first post on this forum that has said Kohler has more problems than Generac..

Good to hear from someone who installs all the major brands..

The ratio is 1000 to 1..

Just telling what we have experienced, i could care less who installs what.
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I work for a company that has installed alot of generators, Generac, Kohler, and Cummins, out of the 3 brands we have had more problems with the Kohlers than Generac or Cummins.

Since the code change requiring us to size the Generator for the load that is automatically transfered it has changed the game,theres lots of install options out there, you can install a Load shedding Transfer switch or install a essential circuit sub panel and size the Generator for the sub panel but the Generac pre-wired load center transfer switch is actually a labor saving unit, and a heck of alot cheaper when bought as a package.
I just ordered a 10kw Generac with pre wired switch for a customer today. I gave him two options and he wanted the generac. Fine by me...
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I prefer the Kohler and Cummins and won't get into why. The only thing I don't like about the small Kohlers is that they don't give you a spot to enter from underneath. The spot right under the main is for the battery. Learned that one the hard way . The tech had to install a gell cell battery (for the higher temp.) in the engine compartment for the warranty.
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I work for a company that has installed alot of generators, Generac, Kohler, and Cummins, out of the 3 brands we have had more problems with the Kohlers than Generac or Cummins.

Since the code change requiring us to size the Generator for the load that is automatically transfered it has changed the game,theres lots of install options out there, you can install a Load shedding Transfer switch or install a essential circuit sub panel and size the Generator for the sub panel but the Generac pre-wired load center transfer switch is actually a labor saving unit, and a heck of alot cheaper when bought as a package.
Where exactly does it say that we have to size the generator based on load. Residential use only please. TY

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702.5 (B) 2 (a,b) 2008 code
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702.5 (B) 2 (a,b) 2008 code
Had I know you were looking there.
There is no requirement for residential use.

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Read 702.2 Definition I think its the proper interpretation (read the FPN). Anyone else?
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I buy them from my supplier and not HD.. I dont know if there is a difference
HD supply started out selling junk from the beginning .
Thats how they got to be big .

Because we go there for the lowest price so you get what you pay for in my book .


People will buy anything cheap a name doesnt mean anything today just about anything today is junk .

But the folks who bitch about Generac generators theres no difference from brand to brand there all the same junk .

You get a good one or a bad one its like anything you purchase today its all made cheap and put together so it last two years thats it .


Not electrical but if you buy a 2x4 at Home Depo and buy a 2x4 at Lowes .

The price is higher at Lowes because the wooden 2x4 is straight !

You have to go through the pile at Home Depo and find the straight ones .


I think it maybe true with some products at HD most of there stuff in boxes are re taped wonder why .


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