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09-13-2009, 06:32 PM
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Dimming?
My parent-in-laws asked me to install a Chandelier in there dining room this week. Well the switch is a dimmer switch, does the fixture need to be dimmable.
I believe it does, because I've been told in commerical settings, that the ballast must be dimmable otherwise it blow up. I would assume it must be the same for a residental light considering electricity is electricity.
So if they want a dimmer switch the light must be dimmable correct? The lights they bought are not dimmable.
Am I correct?
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09-13-2009, 06:35 PM
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If the fixture takes incandescent lamps, it does not have to be specially manufactured as "dimmable". That's only for fluorescent fixtures.
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09-13-2009, 06:38 PM
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Is the chandelier fluorescent ? If not, it should be ok.
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09-13-2009, 06:40 PM
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Quote:
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If the fixture takes incandescent lamps, it does not have to be specially manufactured as "dimmable". That's only for fluorescent fixtures.
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Ah ha... now you just clicked something in my mind lol. I totally forgot about that until you said it. Thank you very much.
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09-13-2009, 07:19 PM
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Duh....
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09-13-2009, 08:53 PM
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Blow up?????
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09-13-2009, 09:13 PM
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Kid is over his head at this point of his apprenticeship.
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09-13-2009, 11:09 PM
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I can see it now.... he'll be close to finish and realize the canopy sits too low to the ceiling, so instead of taking it down and adjusting the threaded nipple he just spins the chandelier around until the zip cord shorts.
Been there, done that.
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09-13-2009, 11:18 PM
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Blow up?????
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09-13-2009, 11:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnettica
I can see it now.... he'll be close to finish and realize the canopy sits too low to the ceiling, so instead of taking it down and adjusting the threaded nipple he just spins the chandelier around until the zip cord shorts.
Been there, done that.
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Been there, seen that too.
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09-14-2009, 12:18 AM
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Kid is over his head at this point of his apprenticeship.
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Lol... guess no one has ever asked a dumb question before. Excuse me, every fixture I've worked with has been fluorscent, and is either dimmable or not.
I guess by your fifth year your suppose to know everything about the trade eh?
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Quote:
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I can see it now.... he'll be close to finish and realize the canopy sits too low to the ceiling, so instead of taking it down and adjusting the threaded nipple he just spins the chandelier around until the zip cord shorts.
Been there, done that.
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What your not suppose to do that 
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09-14-2009, 12:23 AM
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Lol... guess no one has ever asked a dumb question before. Excuse me, every fixture I've worked with has been fluorscent, and is either dimmable or not.
I guess by your fifth year your suppose to know everything about the trade eh?
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No, but I find it difficult to believe you've NEVER installed or serviced an incandescent fixture.
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09-14-2009, 01:23 AM
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Quote:
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I guess by your fifth year your suppose to know everything about the trade eh?
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No, but surely in five years you've came across an incandescent fixture. Thats as basic as it gets.
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09-14-2009, 09:26 AM
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Ease up guys, he is still learning, at least he did ask.
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09-14-2009, 09:35 AM
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This seems like more of a brain fart than not knowing.
I've been calculating phase colors in my head for years using the same method. The other day I just completely forgot how to do it, I was standing there stumped and I had to go over to the panel and count it out.
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09-14-2009, 10:41 AM
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This is amazing to me.... besides voltages, there is NO difference in residential electricity and commercial electricity. Volts are volts, amps are amps, and watts are watts. Why do people make the distinction between the two?
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09-14-2009, 11:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnettica
This is amazing to me.... besides voltages, there is NO difference in residential electricity and commercial electricity. Volts are volts, amps are amps, and watts are watts. Why do people make the distinction between the two?
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I didn't see anyone making any distinction between commercial and residential in this thread, do you?
The only thing mentioned was the difference in dimability (I just made that up) between fluorescent and incan.
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09-14-2009, 11:43 AM
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Incandescent lamps are about to vanish around these parts (If our government get their way).
I wonder what will happen to all those dimmers?
And who will pay to have them replaced?
The Government? Not likely.
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09-14-2009, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by iElectrician
I didn't see anyone making any distinction between commercial and residential in this thread, do you?
The only thing mentioned was the difference in dimability (I just made that up) between fluorescent and incan.
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The OP did make a distinction between commercial and residential in the second paragraph.
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