Ontariojer

Insert diode here? Get a cheap fixture and try it?

I love hearing about others experiments!

480sparky

If you energize the load side of the motion sensor, your light comes on.

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Ontariojer

I think he means will it f up the electronics, and i would say 'it depends' see my post above.

MDShunk

If you use an RAB Stealth (please do!), you can toggle the regular snap switch a certain number of fast toggles to have it on. Turn it off for off. Turn it back on for motion. Problem solved.

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nolabama

Thanks Ken. I thought it would work, but i walked away quick when it did not work. I figured i would ask. And after it did not work my mind went straight to HOA.

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nolabama

The zenith made a popping sound....so i figured i fouled up the wiring.
Get a RAB stealth seems to be unanimous.

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480sparky

How could it? Usually, the output is simply fed by a reed relay.

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macmikeman

I'm unclear on why the 3 way idea doesn't work. Run the neutral and ground wire the standard way, feed hot to the common terminal,one wire connected to one traveler terminal goes to the sensor line input, and the other conductor connected to the remaining traveler terminal bypasses the sensor portion of the light and connects directly to the lamp wiring. When in the bypass sensor position, why the fried electronics in the sensor?

I never ran across such a setup , but it seems reasonable to me to use the three way switch..

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MDShunk

You can absolutely feed the "other side of the sensor" to have the lamps on all the time. If someone said they fried the electronics, they were either mistaken or did something seriously wrong. I've done it many times.

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nolabama

I will check it again. You guys made me call the lady. She says it works dusk till dawn, but no motion. And it can be turned off and I suppose always on. Hmmm seems it does work, maybe I should trust myself more. A simple select on the motion detector and move the single pole make break to in front of the three way and I should be good to go. I like Kens way best tho. Maybe next time I will do like cletis and ask before i do the work.

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macmikeman

Its kind of a good idea, using the three way switch, which I have never done, but... It sounds a whole lot easier to teach a typical customer from my digs how to use it rather than to try to teach em how to count one Mississippi, two Mississippi.......






I'm on it from this moment forward. Thanks for that one.

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nolabama

Lol.

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Ontariojer

you're welcome

Ontariojer

yes, but it uses stuff i have on the truck

480sparky

A 3-way will not afford you the "Off" option unless you install a single-pole ahead of it. That, or use a SPDT-CO switch.

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480sparky

Looks like a Single Pole to me.

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Ontariojer

Ohhhh, SNAP.

di11igaf

Th Exactly, there's no reason you couldn't. Replace the motion sensor with a photocell, it'd be the exact same thing. There's obviously other ways to do it, but feeding the 3 three way with a single pole to completely remove power, then just using the 3 way basically as a selector switch should work fine.

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220/221

Feed the fixture with a 3 wire.

Make the black hot and the red switched.

Hot feeds the motion, switch leg feeds the switch leg (along with the wire from the motion module)