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08-30-2009, 03:32 PM
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I definetely agree with you there. I just want to find out requirements for the state of FL for now. Thanks for your reply.
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Unless you are ready to start your own business, obtaining your Master Electrician License is not good for your career advancement. Once I obtained my Master Electrician License, I personally had a much harder time finding a job. Many Contractor's are very suspicious of other Master Electrician's working for them. Some don't like employee's who know as much as them or who could take clients away and start there own company. Now this kind of thinking is ofcourse from Contractor's who are usually not very good electricians themselves and have a complex.
Some companies will hire you and want the most expereinced guys working for there company and understand that people who are the most skilled add value to there business, but in my experience they are in the minority.......
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08-30-2009, 06:36 PM
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Perhaps off the subject. But here a story I heard about another profession.
A doctor came to my town, and set up practice at place
called, Northshire Medical Center. The new doctor to this area had to sign
a legal document, that if he left, he would not open a practice that would
compete with there within 30 miles. Yes, it way out in left field, I know.
But this only offer as food for thought.
I was only on construction sites, because I had a Master License, then
the Electrical Contractor, could hire unlicense personal, at a lower wage.
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08-30-2009, 06:42 PM
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#223
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Senior Member
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Location: Leesburg VA
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Originally Posted by westernexplorer
Unless you are ready to start your own business, obtaining your Master Electrician License is not good for your career advancement. Once I obtained my Master Electrician License, I personally had a much harder time finding a job.
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I had many job offers, from contractors, several while I was taking a master course from other in the class.
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08-30-2009, 06:57 PM
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Professional Nit Picker
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Maryland
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Originally Posted by westernexplorer
Unless you are ready to start your own business, obtaining your Master Electrician License is not good for your career advancement.
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I found this statement to be completely false. I was open about taking my masters. I had my employer at the time write a letter to verify my experience.
Not everyone who has their masters license is interested in opening up a business. Some take the test as a challenge to themselves. Some take it just to have it. Some want to do "side work" legally. Just because you have a license does not mean it must be an active license. At least here in Maryland you can place your license on inactive status, also known as putting it on the shelf.
I have had several employment opportunities because I have my masters license. Opportunities that would not have been there had I not had my masters.
My opinion is that having a masters license is a good thing. It can open doors that otherwise would be opened to you.This includes my current position!
Any employer who holds it against you is insecure and only cares about you as long as they can hold you back.
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08-30-2009, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by manchestersparky
I found this statement to be completely false. I was open about taking my masters. I had my employer at the time write a letter to verify my experience.
Not everyone who has their masters license is interested in opening up a business. Some take the test as a challenge to themselves. Some take it just to have it. Some want to do "side work" legally. Just because you have a license does not mean it must be an active license. At least here in Maryland you can place your license on inactive status, also known as putting it on the shelf.
I have had several employment opportunities because I have my masters license. Opportunities that would not have been there had I not had my masters.
My opinion is that having a masters license is a good thing. It can open doors that otherwise would be opened to you.This includes my current position!
Any employer who holds it against you is insecure and only cares about you as long as they can hold you back.
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My experience is the same.
My employer encouraged me when I told him I was taking my test, and I know it has helped get at least one job since.
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08-30-2009, 08:02 PM
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Not trying to stir the pot, but I was working open shop at the time what about Manchester and John? It could be a union/open shop thing?
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08-31-2009, 02:05 AM
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No problem, it was just my experience, if others had a different one then great for them.
One of the guys I worked for, found out I had a Master License and he had a non-competition agreement waiting for me to sign the next week. I refused to sign it and he let me go. Another guy said, why would I hire you when I can hire a Journeyman and pay him less and not have to worry about him stealing my customers.....He never hired me....
Funny thing is, I never ran into anything like that when I was just a Journeyman, in fact I had several contractors wanting me to go to work for them all the time....After they found out about my masters they stopped calling.....LOL.
JMO
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08-31-2009, 02:45 AM
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Site Idiot Smacker
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Location: Port Coquitlam, British Columbia
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Journeyman....interprovincial Red Seal, can work pretty much anywhere in Canada, doing pretty much anything.........god help you all, bwaaaaahahahahahahaha
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08-31-2009, 04:57 PM
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Professional Nit Picker
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Originally Posted by brian john
Not trying to stir the pot, but I was working open shop at the time what about Manchester and John? It could be a union/open shop thing?
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Open shop.
I have spoken with a lot of guys out of local 26 and local 24 ,who have the masters license and work for a company. Never heard of it being an issue.
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08-31-2009, 10:31 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brian john
Not trying to stir the pot, but I was working open shop at the time what about Manchester and John? It could be a union/open shop thing?
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Open.
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10-02-2009, 09:36 AM
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junior member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: south florida
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Originally Posted by westernexplorer
Hang in there, I applied in April/08 and passed both exams the first time and still didn't get my license until the May/09 board meeting. It took me 13 months and my application, was never incomplete. They are just slow, in the processing. They don't have the staff, do to cut backs and the entire Department of Business and Professional Regulation was outsoursed to a private contractor, who does all of the processing and runs the call center. You think you are calling the State, but your not. Once your application finally reaches the Electrical Contractors Board, they will move quickly and fairly and if your application is in order, it will be approved.
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 Hey West-The wait is over, The Board approved my appl. last week.I came home wednesday night and checked the website,Board approval-(Complete).Man what a great feeling
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10-04-2009, 10:56 PM
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Location: Oregon
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Originally Posted by cobra50
 Hey West-The wait is over, The Board approved my appl. last week.I came home wednesday night and checked the website,Board approval-(Complete).Man what a great feeling
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Many Congrats....... Its a great feeling. I know the State of Florida is pretty flat, but after getting that license, I felt like I had climbed Mt. Everest.....LOL...
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11-02-2009, 10:02 PM
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Location: The Great Police State of South Jersey
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Originally Posted by alcoelectrical
State of Florida Certified Master / Electrical contractor (In the Sunshine State) No recip / just pay permit fee at any county or city building department. License also accepted in all 50 states except - who would want to go to Alaska. (PERMA FROST)
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New Jersey doesn't reciprocate with anybody.
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11-03-2009, 04:20 PM
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florida unlimited electrical contractor
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11-03-2009, 05:45 PM
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309-A construction and maintinance. interprovincial. its 100% valid all over canada.
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12-08-2009, 12:55 PM
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Location: ontario
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309-A construction and maintinance. interprovincial. its 100% valid all over canada. 
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What is a 309D? I have a 309A red seal and a 442A in Ontario
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12-08-2009, 01:02 PM
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Licensed RAT
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I really don't know what is getting worse on this forum
-trolls
-diyers
-people resurrecting old threads
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12-08-2009, 02:07 PM
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#238
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Junior Member
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Location: ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robnj772
I really don't know what is getting worse on this forum
-trolls
-diyers
-people resurrecting old threads
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sorry Rob I'm new to this forum and did a search and nothing came up. you seem to know but did not offer to answer. Maybe the people on this forum are not like the other forums I'm on that I'm part of . We try to help each other.
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12-08-2009, 06:48 PM
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Location: Southern Illinois
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I have no license. None required/available here.
Since this old thread has been resurrected
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12-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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#240
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Location: east coast
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State Masters and NCCER Industrial Electrician Certification
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