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Old 10-03-2008, 10:22 AM   #41
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I'm a inside wireman. I have a General Journeyman in Oregon and Journeyman in Washington. I had an Idaho as well, but they had some funky CEU requirement that I couldn't meet while overseas.
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:03 AM   #42
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I am indentured into a state recognized apprentice program.

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Old 10-05-2008, 01:02 AM   #43
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State of Maine Master Electrician License, no local licenses up here I know of, but you are required to have the state license.
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State of Ga Master, State of SC master
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:17 PM   #46
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State of Florida Certified Master / Electrical contractor (In the Sunshine State) No recip / just pay permit fee at any county or city building department. License also accepted in all 50 states except - who would want to go to Alaska. (PERMA FROST)
I don't think this is correct. This is the list of states that Washington recipricates with right out of the online documents.

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Washington currently reciprocates (01-Journeyman Certification) with Alaska, Arkansas, Colorado, Idaho, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, Utah, and Wyoming. Oklahoma and New Hampshire will likely join the group this year and several other states with electrical programs have expressed interest in gaining reciprocity.
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Oregon's list is about the same I don't think they will reciprocate Californina or Florida but I did not look that one up. I don't know about Florida but California didn't have any real licensing rules until fairly recently (correct me if I am wrong..) I believe that anyone that could pass the test in California was considered a journeyman regardless of hours and there was no journeyman to trainee ratio. Again, this is just what I have been told.

Those of you in California, is this true? What are your requirements like now?
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No this is not correct for California. Your application to take the test required xx number of verified work, school to take an applicable test, ie: apprentrice, journeyman, residential, security. I believe the journeyman test required either 8000 or 10000 hours.
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how many license's do you guys have exactly? here in Australia we have Linesman, Level 2, general Electrical license , and contractors, but after apprenticeship you get Electrical and u can virtually work on anything after the service fuses.
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Seems like every State that has a license is doing there own thing. I think there are a few states yet that haven't adopted the NEC. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the State license is based on the NEC with the addition of State specific laws and unique situations. Washington and Oregon are that way. It's the NEC plus State requirements.

One license good in all 50 States would be nice.
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In the state of NC we enforce the NC Electrical Code which is the NEC with amendments.

I hold an unlimited license which is the same as a master’s license in other states. I am also certified by the state licensing board to do continuing education for electrical contractors.

I also hold a Level III Inspector’s certificate and I am certified by the Department of Insurance Qualification Board to do continuing education for electrical inspectors. The Qualification Board has also qualified me to teach the Standard Electrical Inspectors classes at the community college level, see page 8 by clicking here

I sit on the education committee for the NCIAEI which does continuing education for both contractors and inspectors. I also sit on the curriculum education committee for the Qualification Board which designs the Instructor’s Manuals for the community colleges to use for the training of electrical inspectors.
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Seems like every State that has a license is doing there own thing. I think there are a few states yet that haven't adopted the NEC. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but the State license is based on the NEC with the addition of State specific laws and unique situations. Washington and Oregon are that way. It's the NEC plus State requirements.

One license good in all 50 States would be nice.
In 2002, the State of Florida adopted the NEC over all local jurisdictional county and city municipality ordinances and amendment laws. (meaning one local town couldn't insist on all CU. over AL. within their jurisdiction.)

The only counties are Dade (Miami) & Marathon (The Keys) of which have in-placed certain southern building code amendments to do with Hurricanes strengthening.
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A single 50 state licesne would not work at all. Well it would, but it would be disasterous. How many of you, that hold a master licesnse for any state, know the state amended codes for every other of the 50 states? I know Wisconsins and thats all i know. We have a fairly good sized state code book.

Also, a Florida Licesnse will get you no where in Wisconsin. Wisconsin is not a reciprocatring state and we definitely don't reciprocate with Florida.

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Old 10-09-2008, 01:30 PM   #54
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From a Uk /GB point of view. We have one set of regulations British Standard 7671:2008 and that's it . No variations [apart from some bits for Scotland I think]
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Some diversify into HV or get other certs. Technician is almost a 'Martini licence' ANY job ANY time ANYWHERE
Personally mine covers design, Install, Commission, Certify, Inspect, Data, Fibre Optics Telecomms, Control Systems, Alarms and a few others. We have a system here whereby if you are in one or more of the 'schemes' you can certify ALL of your own work. There is a limited scope scheme which covers purely Domestic [Resi] work. Considered by many to be a ...£%%$&* .The only thing that we are NEVER allowed to do is work upstream of the cut-out fuse. No such thing as permits, no body checking your work [other than somebody appointed by the client if they feel it necessary]. Seems to work well the majority of the time
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Old 10-09-2008, 04:53 PM   #55
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A single 50 state licesne would not work at all. Well it would, but it would be disasterous. How many of you, that hold a master licesnse for any state, know the state amended codes for every other of the 50 states? I know Wisconsins and thats all i know. We have a fairly good sized state code book.

Also, a Florida Licesnse will get you no where in Wisconsin. Wisconsin is not a reciprocatring state and we definitely don't reciprocate with Florida.

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A journeyman's license, master's license, supervisor's license, etc... does not mean that you know all of the codes. In my opinion I am prefer the guy that doesn't remember the codes but is quick to look them up as opposed to the guy that knows the code "for sure" but just so happens to remember it from the '02 book.

If you are going to work in a different state you will have to pass inspections just like the next guy so you will have to know the state codes. Having the license would just mean that you have the ability to find the proper answers and also that you have some experience and a good knowledge of installations and the NEC.

I think that a national electrical license would be great!!!
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Master's -- Reciprocal with NC, OH, VA & WV contractor's license
Journeyman's -- Reciprocal with VA
Apprentice's -- none

Tests are based on the NEC. We're currently testing against 2008, altho 2005 is last adopted code. I know of no amendments to the NEC for WV.

"Master electrician" means a person with at least five years of electrical work experience, including experience in all phases of electrical wiring and installation, who is competent to design electrical systems, and to instruct and supervise the electrical work of journeyman electricians, apprentice electricians, and other related workers.

"Journeyman electrician" means a person qualified by at least four years of electrical work experience to do any work installing wires, conduits, apparatus, equipment, fixtures and other appliances, provided that this classification is not authorized to design electrical systems. [Journeyman may supervise apprentices.] {My job description also requires me to instruct apprentices.}

"Apprentice electrician" means a person with interest in and an aptitude for performing electrical work but who alone is not capable of performing electrical work unless directly supervised by a higher license classification.

"Specialty electrician" means a person qualified to perform electrical work in a limited or specialized area.

A specialty plumbing, heating, and air conditioning electrician license (SP-PH) authorized to install, maintain, or repair only wiring that is directly related to plumbing, heating, and air conditioning equipment and that:
A. is restricted to circuits or parts of circuits that operate at voltages not exceeding 600 volts, phase-to-phase;
B. is electrically isolated from the building wiring system by an overcurrent protective isolating device, such as a fused switch or circuit breaker, that:
(a) has been installed, complete with line-side connections, by a master or journeyman electrician;
(b) is permanently and legibly marked to identify the equipment served by the device; and
(c) is located within an enclosure intended solely for, and limited to, serving the specific plumbing, heating, and air conditioning equipment involved, or is located within a panel-board that serves the building wiring system and is likewise permanently and legibly marked to identify the equipment served by the device, provided the wiring is installed by a master or journeyman electrician from the load-side terminals of the device to a junction box, auxiliary gutter, or similar disconnecting means located outside the panelboard, but in sight of and within 50 feet of, the plumbing, heating, or air conditioning equipment served;
C. originates at the load-side terminals of the protective isolating device;
D. except for control wiring, is physically adjacent to the plumbing, heating, and air conditioning equipment involved and is in sight of and not more than 50 feet from the equipment. Control wiring that receives its control power from the plumbing, heating, and air conditioning equipment involved may extend beyond these limits if the control voltage does not exceed 120 volts to ground and the wiring is protected from overcurrent; and
E. is not installed in a location considered as hazardous under the National Electrical Code.

A specialty electric sign electrician license (SP-ES) authorizes the licensee to install, maintain, or repair only wiring that is directly related to electric signs and is electrically isolated from the building wiring system. Wiring that is directly related differs depending on the type sign involved.
A. Except for electric signs described in subdivisions B, C, and D of this Section, related wiring is the portion of the electric sign wiring that originates at the load-side terminals of a disconnecting means located immediately adjacent to the electric sign involved, or originates within a junction box so located. Related wiring does not include the installation of the disconnecting means, complete with line-side connections, or the installation of the junction box, complete with free-length circuit conductors to accommodate the connection of the related wiring in the box.
B. For electric sign installations having sign transformers installed physically apart from the sign, related wiring is the portion of the electric sign wiring that originates at the load-side terminals of a disconnecting means located immediately adjacent to the sign transformer supplying the electric sign involved, or originates within a junction box located immediately adjacent to the electric sign involved. Related wiring does not include the installation of the disconnecting means, complete with line-side connections, or the installation of the junction box, complete with free-length circuit conductors to accommodate the connection of the related wiring in the box.
C. for permanent free-standing electric sign installations supplied through underground circuit conductors, related wiring is the portion of the electric sign wiring that originates at a wiring termination point located at, within, or immediately above the permanent base for the sign structure.
D. Related wiring does not include the installation of:
(a) a junction box, located at, within, or immediately above the permanent base for the sign, complete with free-length circuit conductors to accommodate the connection of the related wiring; or
(b) if the base of the sign structure is suitable for use as a raceway, the installation of bushing, complete with free-length circuit conductors extending through to accommodate the connection of the related wiring within the sign structure raceway.
E. For electric signs specifically designed to be connected directly to the building wiring raceway or cable supply, related wiring is the portion of the electric sign wiring that originates at the point where the free-length circuit conductors extend through the building wiring raceway or cable at the specifically designed supply location for the electric sign involved. Related wiring does not include the installation of the building wiring raceway or cable system to the specifically designated point of supply for the electric sign involved, complete with free-length circuit conductors extending through the building wiring raceway or cable to accommodate the connection of the related wiring.

A specialty single family residential dwelling electrician license (SP-SFD) which authorizes the licensee to install, maintain, or repair only electrical wiring and devices that are in or on a single family residential dwelling or an ancillary to a single family residential dwelling. Electrical work that is covered by another special restricted license can be performed by a SP-SFD licensee without obtaining the other special restricted license as long as it is in or on a single family residential dwelling or an ancillary to a single family residential dwelling.
A. A "single family residential dwelling" is a building or a manufactured home that is designed and used only for habitation by one family and is not physically attached to any other building or structure. Cabanas, porches, room additions, and similar structures are considered part of a single family dwelling if they are designed for and used only for residential purposes by the occupants of the dwelling.

A specialty low voltage electrician license (SP-LV) (Fire and Burglar Alarm Systems) which authorizes the licensee to install, maintain, or repair only low voltage wiring, 80 volts or less, and directly related wiring. Wiring is directly related if it:
A. originates at the load-side terminals of a disconnecting means or junction box that:
(a) has been installed, complete with line-side connections, by others for the specific purpose of supply the low voltage wiring system involved; and
(b) is permanently and legibly marked to identify the low voltage wiring system supplied; and
B. is not installed in a location considered as hazardous under the National Electrical Code.

A specialty elevator electrician license (SP-EL) (Elevators, Dumbwaiter(s), Escalator(s), Moving Walk(s) and Personnel Hoist(s)) which authorizes the licensee to install, maintain, or repair electric wiring only as an incident to the licensee's elevator, dumbwaiter, escalator, moving walk, or personnel hoist business. Furthermore, the license authorizes the licensee to install, maintain, or repair only electrical wiring that:
A. is an integral part of an elevator, dumbwaiter escalator, moving walk, or personnel hoist;
B. is electrically isolated from the building wiring system by means of an overcurrent protective device, such as a safety switch or circuit breaker, that has been installed, complete with line-side connections, by others; and
C. originates at the load-side terminals of the protective isolating device, referred to as "beyond the disconnection means."

no license may be required for:
(1) A person who performs electrical work with respect to any property owned or leased by that person;
(2) a person who performs electrical work at any manufacturing plant or other industrial establishment as an employee of the person, firm or corporation operating the plant or establishment;
(3) a person who performs electrical work while employed by an employer who engages in the business of selling appliances at retail, so long as such electrical work is performed incident to the installation or repair of appliances sold by the employer;
(4) a person who, while employed by a public utility or its affiliate, performs electrical work in connection with the furnishing of public utility service; or (5) any government employee performing electrical work on government property.

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...One license good in all 50 States would be nice.
Got that right!

I need 3 different state Master Licenses in the area that I work in. And a bunch of county Master licenses in one of those states. All at a cost of over a thousand bucks every year!

BUT I ONLY NEED ONE DRIVERS LICENSE TO GET TO ANY OF THESE JOBS, NO MATTER WHERE THEY ARE LOCATED!!
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. And a bunch of county Master licenses in one of those states.
Let me guess.... Maryland?
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Of course ...

Delmarva encompasses 3 different states, and almost ½ the counties in Maryland, where each one wants their own piece of the licensing pie.

In Delaware, there are no county licenses, but many municipalities require business licenses.

In Virginia I only need 2 licenses to operate there.

All 3 require corporation registration, along with those fees as well ...
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