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westernexplorer · 06-21-2009, 07:57 PM

jrannis,

I was just giving you a hard time, after dealing with all these license agencies, I understand why there is so much misunderstanding out there. Everytime you call the State you get a different answer.....LOL.....

heavysparky · 06-22-2009, 02:53 PM

I have a electrical license in st joesph county along with a hvac.
Indiana does not require a state license

Magnettica · 06-22-2009, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by westernexplorer

jrannis,

I was just giving you a hard time, after dealing with all these license agencies, I understand why there is so much misunderstanding out there. Everytime you call the State you get a different answer.....LOL.....

What makes you think they know what the hells going on?

blueheels2 · 06-22-2009, 06:34 PM

Limited licnse in the state of NC.

mcclary's electrical · 06-26-2009, 03:10 PM

State Master Electricican, State contractors license, local business license.

lectricboy · 06-26-2009, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobelectric

Nothing.Pa. doesn"t require any licence.

I've read Illinois, and New York don't require it either, but Chicago and NYC do. Does Philidelphia and Pittsburg have licensing requirement?

captkirk · 06-26-2009, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LawnGuyLandSparky

I guess the whole "states rights" thing is lost on you, huh?

OOO your so snarky, run out of whiskey..?

Mike_586 · 06-26-2009, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

Well for one the electrical codes are very different state to state.

For another so are the requirements for getting a license.

Here you need 8000 hr apprentice time and 600 hr school time, if I did all that I would be pissed if they let a guy come in and work with a license from a state that only requires a fee to get an electrical license.

I hold a Jmans license in MA, RI and CT I had to test for each, no reciprocating.

Or a state with only 600hrs of schooling

I'm kidding, sort of, but with every individual state setting the rules for licensing requirements, there's always going to be someplace that has you're state beat in some regard....

We've got the Red Seal program up here in Canada. What that means is that the federal government set the minimum standards for getting a Red Seal, which is tougher with more stringent requirements than any individual Provincial license. The Red Seal program requires 9,00hrs, and if I remember right we got somewhere in the vicinity of 900hrs of school.
In the past, passing with a mediocre mark you got a Provincial license, though Ontario has dropped the Ontario license, either you get over 70% and a Red Seal, or you try again (though they'll only let you fail so many times before telling you that your aren't cut out for the trade).

When I took my Red Seal test they had just re-written the exam and I was in the first group to ever take it and the failure rate was nearly 90% for the first year. You were allowed only 3hrs (I breezed through it in 1hr and 10 minutes). Now, years later, I'm told the failure rate is still pretty high (somewhere in the mid 70s) and guys are allowed 4hrs to write. Its not exactly a walk in the park, but I didn't find it that tough *shrugs* I think guys on both sides of the border should spend more time with the code book...

Personally I think it would be a damned good thing for America if they had a national license program that exceeded the requirements of any individual state, that every state had to recognize.

Although I've never had to take advantage of it, I live in a place where being out of work just isn't a concern for me, I like the idea of having the option of being able to jump on a plane and go anywhere in Canada and several other parts of the globe and have my credentials recognized outright.

31b · 06-27-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by lectricboy

I've read Illinois, and New York don't require it either, but Chicago and NYC do. Does Philidelphia and Pittsburg have licensing requirement?

yeah Philadelphia has their own licensing requirements, and as I understand it from statements here or contractortalk, Pittsburgh does too.

kbsparky · 06-27-2009, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Badger

Well for one the electrical codes are very different state to state....

Speed limits are different from state to state. There are also other differing traffic laws that vary from one state to another. Makes no difference. I still only need one driver's license.

LawnGuyLandSparky · 06-27-2009, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kbsparky

Speed limits are different from state to state. There are also other differing traffic laws that vary from one state to another. Makes no difference. I still only need one driver's license.

The right to free movement via motor vehicle doesn't extend to professional licensing. We don't have a "federal electrical license" good everywhere. Don't like it, move to Cuba or some other communist country.

kbsparky · 06-27-2009, 10:38 AM

You have missed the entire point. My driver's license is not a "Federal" license. It is a state-issued license.

But it is also recognized in every state.

I am not moving to Cuba or any other communist country. I don't have to move elsewhere if I don't like something. Running away is not the answer. Such thinking is irrational.

One more point: A driver's license is not a right. It is a privilege. Big difference.

Paelectrican · 06-27-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 31b

yeah Philadelphia has their own licensing requirements, and as I understand it from statements here or contractortalk, Pittsburgh does too.

Pittsburgh does have their own licensing requirements

captkirk · 06-27-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike_586

Or a state with only 600hrs of schooling

I'm kidding, sort of, but with every individual state setting the rules for licensing requirements, there's always going to be someplace that has you're state beat in some regard....

We've got the Red Seal program up here in Canada. What that means is that the federal government set the minimum standards for getting a Red Seal, which is tougher with more stringent requirements than any individual Provincial license. The Red Seal program requires 9,00hrs, and if I remember right we got somewhere in the vicinity of 900hrs of school.
In the past, passing with a mediocre mark you got a Provincial license, though Ontario has dropped the Ontario license, either you get over 70% and a Red Seal, or you try again (though they'll only let you fail so many times before telling you that your aren't cut out for the trade).

When I took my Red Seal test they had just re-written the exam and I was in the first group to ever take it and the failure rate was nearly 90% for the first year. You were allowed only 3hrs (I breezed through it in 1hr and 10 minutes). Now, years later, I'm told the failure rate is still pretty high (somewhere in the mid 70s) and guys are allowed 4hrs to write. Its not exactly a walk in the park, but I didn't find it that tough *shrugs* I think guys on both sides of the border should spend more time with the code book...

Personally I think it would be a damned good thing for America if they had a national license program that exceeded the requirements of any individual state, that every state had to recognize.

Although I've never had to take advantage of it, I live in a place where being out of work just isn't a concern for me, I like the idea of having the option of being able to jump on a plane and go anywhere in Canada and several other parts of the globe and have my credentials recognized outright.

I kind of Agree with that. It would be nice not to be tied down to one state. Like if my wife wanted to go to work in Florida all she would have to do is register her nursing license with the state and she is good to go. Sure ever hospital has its own protocol and what not,but so does every hospital in the same state..
We have a "National" electrical code that we all follow,but every State, County, Municipality has its own twist on it. Its really quite ridiculous. Red tape for what...? I dont see homes in Florida,Colorado, California to be wired any different then NJ. And who says that the individual State cant still have its own amendments. I think it has something to do with Unions and what not. I'm sure it wouldn't be beneficial for them to have droves of non union workers looking for work because their own depressed states or towns are slow.
And it is all about money and what they can squeeze out of us for the right to work in another State.Has anyone ever looked into getting a license to work in Florida. You almost need to hire an outside company just to help you with the process. (MONEY TALKS BULL**** WALKS)

I wonder if MH has anything to do with that.....?
I also think that a lot of guys enjoy rattling off all their Master and Journey man licenses. its kind of like being in the Boy scouts......."I have ten badges how many do you have?"
But Whatever.....I dont even know why I'm ranting on about this, it will never change so who freak-in cares anyway. I guess I just like efficiency and this country is slowly losing out on that one. Look what it did for GM/Chrysler/Pontiac/Buick/Saturn . Five different badges but all with the same product. With god knows how many different big wigs to pay, all those bonuses to pay, all those advertising costs, and all pedaling the same product. What a waste. Not that this electrical issue is the same but One National Code, 9755 different electrical licenses....Oh and im not really sure where the whole communist thing comes into play here......as someone stated....(scratching my head)

Lets all start a new movement
"One Contry One Code One Fee"

acmax · 06-28-2009, 12:12 AM

Not a chance in h*ll that states would give up there autonomy on governing licenses. It serves a purpose that really is easy to understand
if you look back in history and know what the nation was founded on.
God bless the United States of America. Pay up and be happy you have the right to choose, and cry about it.

captkirk · 06-28-2009, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by acmax

Not a chance in h*ll that states would give up there autonomy on governing licenses. It serves a purpose that really is easy to understand
if you look back in history and know what the nation was founded on.
God bless the United States of America. Pay up and be happy you have the right to choose, and cry about it.

I think I stated that .....

zen · 06-28-2009, 01:52 AM

residential wiremans and its state wide ,but id like to add that in san antonio they have a thing called an mc card and you have to have it to run mc. my last co sent us there to help out because the inspector made them take out all the mc they installed

captkirk · 06-28-2009, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by zen

residential wiremans and its state wide ,but id like to add that in san antonio they have a thing called an mc card and you have to have it to run mc. my last co sent us there to help out because the inspector made them take out all the mc they installed

and with this the Defense rest's its case.......

zen · 06-28-2009, 04:07 AM

meaning what

Lone Crapshooter · 06-28-2009, 11:56 PM

Back in the late 80's there was a organization NBEE (National Board of Eectrical Examiners) that tried to get a national license but it nevered developed. I did have a national journeyman license from them but about 2 years after that they went out of business. I have only met one other individual that had a license from them.
LC