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07-25-2009, 12:45 PM
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Seen your member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by partimer31
Quiz: Your boss send you and another electrician to a Bagel Shop to wire
a new single phase, 120 volt dishwasher. When you get there you
find one service and its has four conductor feeding into the shop
existing electrical panel. You check the panel and notice two break-
ers next to each other, then a space. The panel is full of two
breakers next to each then a space, expect where there one three
pole breaker plug in. The other electrician saids great, there enough
empty spaces to plug in another single pole breaker for the dishwah-
er. Your not sure that the dishwasher breaker should be plug into
any one of the empty 1" space, before checking. Question is what
should you be checking for?
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A service with a wild leg.
Is there any reason you keep posting these on a thread that has nothing to do with your questions?
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07-25-2009, 01:46 PM
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480 Sparky your answer is correct, and your message has been received.
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07-25-2009, 02:03 PM
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#163
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Seen your member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by partimer31
.........and your message has been received.
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I'm not saying not to post them, but just to start a new thread for them.
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07-25-2009, 02:16 PM
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#164
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Yea, I Have Helpers Cards in Orange & Rockland Countys, Bergen County, NJ. They were $45 a Piece, it was $135.
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07-25-2009, 05:29 PM
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How about a question - answer- thread for people that like to hear how smart they are ?
This was started about licensing.
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07-26-2009, 04:10 PM
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#166
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Location: Wyoming
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What?
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Originally Posted by Kletis
Trainee card and Administrator's card in Washington. Journeyman card as of next month in WA...
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Please Explane to me what a master Apprentice is????
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07-26-2009, 04:22 PM
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#167
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Junior Member
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Location: Wyoming
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Lisc - My
Wyoming Master & Journeyman
Colorado, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Utah, Idaho - Journeyman
MSHA - Green Card or mine certificate Surface Electrical supervision similar to a master.
US Department of Transportation, Interstate transport system certification
International Society for Automation - Certified Control System Technician level II
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07-26-2009, 04:39 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Wyoming
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Yes it's about the MONEY
Here is what Licensing is all about.
Attempting to have some authority grant and say you have some form of qualification and there for can be held liable.
It difficult at best to hold anyone accountable if they do not willingly agree to join and adhere to the "system" so when you get a license you are by that fact endorsing the system and agreeing to participate in it.
By taking the test, and accounting for some level of knowledge and awareness, you now because you hold a license you can be held accountable to the standard you tested against.
So if you screw up some inspector and others can leverage you to follow the rules of the system you joined.
Not to mention all the revenue you create by getting a license.
Yes it's about the MONEY
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07-26-2009, 06:39 PM
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Residential Wireman. Texas.
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07-26-2009, 06:52 PM
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Am I correct in assuming that those of you that do not believe in licensed trades would go to a unlicensed doctor for a life threatining condition?
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07-26-2009, 06:53 PM
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Not Peter D
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectricBrian
Here is what Licensing is all about.
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You have all the answers.
Quote:
Attempting to have some authority grant and say you have some form of qualification and there for can be held liable.
It difficult at best to hold anyone accountable if they do not willingly agree to join and adhere to the "system" so when you get a license you are by that fact endorsing the system and agreeing to participate in it.
By taking the test, and accounting for some level of knowledge and awareness, you now because you hold a license you can be held accountable to the standard you tested against.
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It sounds you think like we should not be held accountable for our own actions.
In my opinion people failing to take responsibility for their own actions are one of the biggest problems in this country.
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07-26-2009, 07:57 PM
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Licensed RAT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thekoolcody
Yea, I Have Helpers Cards in Orange & Rockland Countys, Bergen County, NJ. They were $45 a Piece, it was $135.
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Thats not a license of any kind just a card to work in the union
Just like the OP on the first thread said he had a general j-mans card that also is just a card not a license.
They both are worthless
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07-26-2009, 08:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by robnj772
Thats not a license of any kind just a card to work in the union
Just like the OP on the first thread said he had a general j-mans card that also is just a card not a license.
They both are worthless
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They Are useless, But my boss told me That I had to get them to work with him, So I Got Them.
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07-26-2009, 08:46 PM
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Location: lebanon nj
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I just got my nj electrical contractor's license
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07-27-2009, 07:11 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Wyoming
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Your assumption your mistake
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Badger
You have all the answers.
It sounds you think like we should not be held accountable for our own actions.
In my opinion people failing to take responsibility for their own actions are one of the biggest problems in this country.
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I guess any written statement can be misconstrued.
I believe everyone should be held accountable and I have practiced that for all my years not just in the electrical trade.
I wonder how you could have perceived that from my statement. I never stated that I was against licensing. I hold licenses from Wyoming which may be the most difficult to attain until the reciprocity issues started.
I have also taken personal measures to hold other supposedly professionals to task.
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08-09-2009, 08:29 PM
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so if you get a Florida state lic. then you can do electrical work in almost any state??
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08-09-2009, 08:55 PM
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Licensed Pro
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Rahway, NJ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njspark83
I just got my nj electrical contractor's license
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Same here. Great feeling knowing you passed the exam and being recognized as an actual licensed electrician. Now I can say things on the forums and back it up with a piece of paper. Did you take your test on Monday 4/6 or Tuesday 4/7?
I got:
NEC - 88
ALARMS - 84
BUSINESS LAW - 80
Classic Electric, LLC
License & Business Permit # 16557
Rahway, NJ,
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08-09-2009, 09:00 PM
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Licensed Pro
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Location: Rahway, NJ
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Speaking of which....
Today I worked fixing some rigged dryer line some guy had stapled directly to the sheetrock, through 3-4 rooms and a hallway, and the receptacle was wired incorrectly. As I was doing this job I thought to myself how many times I sat home on a Sunday wishing I had some work to do instead of sitting here posting on the forums. Today I went out and made a few hundred bucks in less than 3.5 hours. That is the power of having a license and a business. I'm not knocking you guys, but I'd much rather be out there working on a Sunday and making money than sitting here in my office.
GO OUT AND GET YOUR LICENSE AND BE SOMEBODY!
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08-13-2009, 04:49 PM
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junior member
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cobra50
Florida State Unlimited Electrical(Still Waiting) I started the application on 5/08(6 months to get approved)I passed the business and technical exams.The paperwork has gone back and forth 4 or 5 times. I hope to finally make the september board meeting.
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08-13-2009, 08:36 PM
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Member
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Location: Oregon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobra50
Florida State Unlimited Electrical(Still Waiting) I started the application on 5/08(6 months to get approved)I passed the business and technical exams.The paperwork has gone back and forth 4 or 5 times. I hope to finally make the september board meeting. 
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Hang in there, I applied in April/08 and passed both exams the first time and still didn't get my license until the May/09 board meeting. It took me 13 months and my application, was never incomplete. They are just slow, in the processing. They don't have the staff, do to cut backs and the entire Department of Business and Professional Regulation was outsoursed to a private contractor, who does all of the processing and runs the call center. You think you are calling the State, but your not. Once your application finally reaches the Electrical Contractors Board, they will move quickly and fairly and if your application is in order, it will be approved.
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