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Old 10-13-2009, 07:49 PM   #1
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Im wondering about the electrical trainee card. I just got it from L&I and i know that its counts for my hours. But how exactly does it work. Im currently waiting for the apprenticeship to call me for work (which they said it will be after Jan before they start hiring new apprentices) but in the mean time im working for a Union company as a material handler. So my questions: How exactly will my hours be put on my card? Will it count for my hours for my apprenticeship? And does that mean i can do apprentice work under a journeyman??

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The WA L&I system of issuing one of these cards to just about anyone with a pulse and $35 allows just about anyone to get hired by an EC and be "recognized" as allowed on the work site. JM ratio issues are then handled just about like anywhere else (ha!).

To answer your question (wild guess here) your hours will be kept track of through company payroll and the local business office. (ask them if no one else has more)

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Alrighty, that answers most of my question. As for my work as a material handler, does that change. Or is it still going to be the same till i get my saftey and orientation class?
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Alrighty, that answers most of my question. As for my work as a material handler, does that change. Or is it still going to be the same till i get my saftey and orientation class?
moving up from material handler to actual tool and wire and hardware handler happens a whooooooole lot faster on a NON UNION job.

No telling when they'll get around to giving you a promotion.
(to shovel handler)

Ask the foreman.
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The union follows a different set of rules than non-union so I am not very familiar with their system. In Washington (speaking of non-union) your hours are kept by the employer and when you go to renew your trainee card, you will sign (along with your employer) an affidavit of hours. That is how the information gets to L&I.
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The union is totally different in how they handle there apprenticeship and hours. Once you get your 4000 hours you can register to take your residential test. Doesnt matter if you glued pipe and dug trenches for all those 4000 hours, if you can pass the test, thats all that matters to the state, but you would not last very long with a company. You need to be sharp and pay attention and study the code,
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The apprentice card allows you to legaly be performing electrical work while supervised by a journeyman while working for a electrical contractor.

I don't know if union shops handle affidavits of experience differently or not. If you are non-union you would have to submit affadavits of experience signed by you and the employer then submit them to the state attesting to your hours worked. You usually do this when laid off or or every two years, whichever comes sooner.

I don't know if your hours working as a material handler will count towards the 8000 you need. It sounds like they hired you outside the union apprentice program but are a union contractor. If that's the case I think you'll be hard pressed to get them to call you a apprentice for the work you are doing. Plenty of time to earn hours later. Union apprentices make good money and work pretty steady.

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